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Old May 21st, 2007, 03:48 AM   #321
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 08:42 AM   #322
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I just returned from Greece and was positively surprised by the modern, clean and frequent Athens Metro. The city itself got better in the last 15 years as it seems but is still a traffic-jam smoghole. PT across Greece is probably one of the worst I ever experienced in the world (and I was in nearly all continents). And then you come to Athens and suddenly everything works fine and clean and on time. Different world, congrats!
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 04:16 PM   #323
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i didnt. re-read that. i said the top were actual metro systems. the ones listed below that comment, where i said other systems, is the list of other transit i have ridden.
What do you mean by "metro systems"? Trains/subways? Surely you didn't skip the trains in Atlanta for buses? I'm just not sure what you mean...
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 04:25 PM   #324
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 04:57 PM   #325
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Old May 24th, 2007, 02:18 AM   #326
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Brussels: nice little network
Antwerp: just a tramway underground, but with the new trams it looks more like a real subway
Paris: i liked some interchanges between stations, human scale on some places, other big stations are crazy!
Barcelona: nice but old
Prague: very efficient
New York: old, dirty but so fast and efficient
Buenos Aires: little old network for this gigantic city
Berlin: just a little part, i remember only the dirty stations
Madrid: great!

That's all
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Old May 24th, 2007, 11:45 AM   #327
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Copenhagen - my home town. Metro is very modern, but too small and a bit too boring with very similar design, S-tog more interesting, but too little underground.

Berlin - great system, both U-Bahn and S-Bahn. U-Bahn needs some upgrades and extension, too little money.

Hamburg - (U+S-Bahn) very efficient and nice, but not very crowded, and therefor a little boring in my opinion. Could be a bit bigger, some parts of the city have little coverage.

London - very great system. Very crowded (at any part of the day+evening), very big system, covers almost every part of the city. But many stations could be a little more interesting. The newest stations, on the Jubilee Line Extension, are really great! Like the historic parts too. Simply great.

Stockholm - one of the best systems in the world compared to the city size. Beautiful stations, nice trains (the new ones), very crowded, covers much of city and suburbs. My favorite!

Amsterdam - Actually I like the stations and trains very much, but it is much much too small. Covers nothing. Very little underground section. hated by the city. No one uses it. Will hopefully be better with the North-South-line, but need much more extensions than that to be an important part of the city!

Rotterdam - nice, but needs more crowd.

Prague - great system, very efficient, alright stations. Could use some more extensions. Some stations starts to look old.

Paris - awful system. Dirty, inefficient. Small trains. But I like the big labyrintic stations.

Valencia - nice and modern, but was not very big when I was there (many years ago now)
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:20 PM   #328
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San Francisco Bay Area (incl. San Jose)
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London
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Madrid
Barcelona
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Sydney
Melbourne
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Hong Kong
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Bangkok
Seoul
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Busan
Fukuoka

Should I count the Seattle Monorail and the streetcar in New Orleans?

Transit nerd that I am, I've also gone into stations in Vancouver, Gwangju, Los Angeles, St Louis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Philadelphia to look around, but I haven't actually used those systems.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:26 PM   #329
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What do you mean by "metro systems"? Trains/subways? Surely you didn't skip the trains in Atlanta for buses? I'm just not sure what you mean...
the topic of this thread is "underground"

i listed the cities i rode underground in, the rest of those are just other systems i have ridden.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:44 PM   #330
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frankfurt, cologne, new york, paris, and that's all...
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Old May 24th, 2007, 07:45 PM   #331
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For me, I've been to FOUR travelling underground...

New York
Toronto
Buffalo
Detroit (Tunnel Bus)

Yes, Windsor, Ontario and Detroit has a TUNNEL BUS, meaning you can use that to go from either city's downtown to the other for a small fee. It does count as UNDERGROUND.

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Old July 6th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #332
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Actually...the Double deckers in Sydney are very inefficient are are going to eventually be replaced.

I agree though, getting a non-airconditioned train is hell...although the Tangaras aren't airconditioned either
WRONG!
Unfortunately your post is wrong on every level. **** some of you talk shit.

Sydney is stuck with double deckers for all the current lines we have and CityRail will not be changing it and have no intention to move away from them. The only possibility might be new independent metro lines like the Northern Beaches and River lines, which might see single deck, metro frequency. The double decks are not really inefficent the way they are used here. They do increase dwell time but they also provide more comfortable travel. Our platforms are all designed around double decker also if you haven't noticed. RailCorp wont be changing them, they have just ordered 600+ new double deck suburban cars.

BTW All the Tangaras are airconditioned (and always have been) and many of the older ridgey sets have been retro-fitted with airconditioning. The non-airconditioned stock will be removed from service with the introduction of the new PPP trains as below.


http://www.reliancerail.com.au/ppp.wmv

$3.6 billion new airconditioned carriages for CityRail

Friday 10 November 2006

Hunter-based consortium Reliance Rail (Downer EDI) has been selected as manufacturer for the building and maintenance of 626 new CityRail carriages, the largest single order of rolling stock ever undertaken in Australia. Related links
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The $3.6 billion project includes $2 billion to build the trains and a new Auburn maintenance facility. RailCorp will pay for the trains and maintenance by making payments over the 35-year life of the contract.

The project is set to generate around 250 new electrical and mechanical trades jobs at Cardiff, west of Newcastle, where EDI is based. It is also expected that, according to local content rules, one new apprentice will be employed for every nine workers on the project.

Under the contract, Reliance Rail would also be required to ensure that 72 eight-carriage trains were available for service every day, and to build train simulators to train rail staff.

On top of the original order, the 626 carriage deal includes the order for an extra 104 growth carriages designed to provide for ongoing patronage on the network.

The first carriage is expected to arrive on the network for testing in mid-2009 with replacement of the last non-airconditioned carriages by end of 2012.

Specifications of the new trains
Seated capacity: 884
Train mass: 395 tonnes
Train width: 3030mm
Ceiling height: 2100mm end saloons, 1920mm upper and lower saloons
Traction system: Hitachi
Body material: stainless steel
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Old July 6th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #333
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Old July 7th, 2007, 03:36 AM   #334
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I have used the subway systems in:

Boston
Paris
Washington D.C.

Washington D.C. had the best system. Excellent coverage and very clean, due to it being only 30 years old.

Paris had the best coverage. I was able to get anywhere I needed to easily and I don't even speak French!

Boston's subway system is awful. The trains are dirty and the stations are not adequately climate controlled. There hasn't been any significant investent in the system in awhile and it shows. The entrance to the parking lot at Malden Station is not even marked along the main access street! The station is a dump as well. It hadn't been cleaned in a long time.

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Old July 7th, 2007, 04:00 AM   #335
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Old July 7th, 2007, 01:24 PM   #336
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Paris, Lyon, Marseille, Lille, Brussel, Amsterdam, Lausanne, London, Athens, Hamburg, Barcelona and Lisboa.
I travelled too with tram in Nantes, Montpellier, Grenoble, Genčve, Bern, Neuchâtel.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 11:15 PM   #337
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I have travelled underground in:
Brussels
Paris
London
Prague
Amsterdam
Rotterdam
The Hague
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Old July 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM   #338
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Besides DC? In my short life, the only other city's underground metro I have traveled was Tokyo.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 03:15 AM   #339
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Los Angeles
Washington D.C.

Not underground but on a mass transit system:
Lafayette/Bay Area
Las Vegas
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