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Old November 19th, 2007, 01:35 AM   #421
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Toronto
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Hong Kong
Shenzhen

Hong Kong was by far the best in terms of efficiency, city coverage and cleanliness.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 08:20 PM   #422
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My updated list:

London
Lille
Paris
Singapore
Hong Kong
Barcelona
Rome

I've also been on suburban trains that run underground in:

Liverpool
Sydney
Melbourne

..and on trams that run underground in Dusseldorf.

I've also been to these cities without going on their metro systems, invariably because somebody else has been organising my transportation:

Glasgow
Montreal
Toronto
Washington DC
Lima
Berlin
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Old November 19th, 2007, 10:00 PM   #423
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No metro or subway in Lima yet.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 10:14 PM   #424
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Oh good, that means I didn't miss out!
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Old November 20th, 2007, 03:01 AM   #425
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In order of attractiveness/efficiency/ease of use:
Hong Kong (no need to explain)
Singapore (clean and fast, except too Singaporean)
Shenzhen (just a clone of HK really)
Taipei (modern, but doesn't go everywhere)
Vancouver (see above)
Paris (very extensive, if it isn't smelly)
London (extensive, but needs work)
Toronto (goes where you want to, but quite a few problems)
Beijing (Soviet-style stations and rolling stock, though it is being improved)
Rome (grafitti, smelly trains, small network)
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Old November 20th, 2007, 05:07 AM   #426
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"Too Singaporean"? What does that mean?
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Old November 21st, 2007, 08:50 PM   #427
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Here my list:

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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:22 PM   #428
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Mexiko stadt
Guadalajara, (mexiko)
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Old November 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM   #429
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London
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Montreal
Paris
New York
Tokyo
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 02:29 AM   #430
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London, Rome, Toronto, Montreal, New York, Washington, Berlin, Madrid, Moscow, Leningrad, Barcelona, Amsterdam, Helsinki, Vienna
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 03:05 AM   #431
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It's not called Leningrad anymore, it's called St Petersburg!

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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:29 PM   #432
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Maybe he wanted to give us the hint that he was there during the time it was called Leningrad
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 06:17 AM   #433
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Prague
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 02:12 PM   #434
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 05:12 PM   #435
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I want to update my list:

1.Barcelona
2.València
3.Madrid
4.Paris (only RER)
5.London
After more a year with no updates in this thread, i want to update my list and comment the different networks:

1.Barcelona

There are the system who I know more. In the last years some stations they redesigned and they build a lot of new trains, but the manteninance they are very poor and they are a lot of people who don't pay and there are no fare control.

2.València

For me they are not a real underground system. This system they are based on a urban tunnel croosing in València city for the old narrow gauge system in València county, with a poor frecuencies in city centre, a lot of branches and, outside city all network except València-Torrent, València-Paterna and València-Seminari they are only one track for the two ways and they are a lot of level crossings. The rolling stock, except 3700 emu trains (UTA) are good, but I disagree with the seat arrengament on 4300 emu trains: they are lateral, not convenient for a suburban-regional service on line 1. Between Castelló de la Ribera (southern terminus) and València they are 51 km and 1 hour time travel! The service are acceptable but the timetables and routes are not good disseaigned (the delays of 10 minutes or more on line 1 they are frecuent), and the stations are good but they are so dark in tunnel stations.

3.Madrid

Very clean and modern system, but they are very slow and stop a lot of time on stations. But the section Puerta de Arganda-Arganda del Rey on line 9 on reality they are a conmuter train service, but with higher frecuence (In weekends they are a train every 12 minutes! )

4.London

They are old but very good manteninance. The normal wide lines they are so with many brances and the service are so quite old and the stops inside the circle urban tunnel are frecuent, and frecuencies in many brances are so insufficient. But the "tube" lines the service are so good and fast. The only problem are the lot of destinations, for a non-usual passenger they are very difficult to try the right train, but for me are so easy, because they are more easy to lost on Barcelona RENFE system than on London Underground...

5.Paris

The "métropolitain" decoration are so good and preserves the history of this centenary system. The trains good but a bit old, the new line 14 fantastic... except for 2 things: they are automatic and they have gate screen between the train and the platform (I hate this two things).

6.Toulouse

This VAL system is the only who visited. The trains are so very little, the stations very short and all is automatic. Clean, very fast and good frecuencies. And the new line B have a ghost station

7.Bilbao

Very good system. The common branch of lines 1 and 2, and the new line 2 to Portugalete are very good: very good frecuencies, very modern and confortable stations, the trains so normal wide for a narrow-gauge train and this sound are exactly the same than the 112 emu trains who operates in Barcelona-Sabadell/Terrassa line. The line 1 section between San Inazio and Plentia operates on old line Bilbao-Plentzia of "Ferrocarriles Suburbanos de Bilbao", with only two level crossings and they are only one very short section of only one track for the two ways, between Urduliz and Plentzia, on many stations they are overground but main stations they are underground.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 07:20 PM   #436
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It's not called Leningrad anymore, it's called St Petersburg!
it will always be leningrad to me. it's the city i grew up in and despite the socialist undertones, it's the name i'm used to. my parents use it, so it rubs off...
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Old November 24th, 2007, 06:01 AM   #437
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it will always be leningrad to me. it's the city i grew up in and despite the socialist undertones, it's the name i'm used to. my parents use it, so it rubs off...
Before Leningrad, its name was Saint Petersburg too...
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Old November 24th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #438
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and before that it was 'ah crap, I'm stuck in this damn swamp!'
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Old November 24th, 2007, 01:19 PM   #439
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... as any other city's name
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Old November 25th, 2007, 01:12 AM   #440
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Before Leningrad, its name was Saint Petersburg too...
True that it was St Petersburg before it was Leningrad but the name was changed to Petrograd during the First World War because it sounded too Germanic. So, in the course of the 20c, the city changed its name three times.

Anyway, to get this thread back on track, I have travelled on the St Petersburg/Petrograd/Leningrad metro. It was unique in my experience as the stations didn't have platforms but a central concourse with side tunnels lining up with the train doors.

That is a good safety feature and saves on construction costs but has the slight problem that if you are travelling in a group of people and choose adjacent tunnels, you can find yourselves in different coaches of the train.
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