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Old October 13th, 2012, 07:02 PM   #101
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Does Liverpool own the houses behind the main stand as when I went there alot of them were empty. If Liverpool could use the land those houses are on building a 2nd tier down that side would be much easier.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #102
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Interesting comment from 2011:

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Rockfield Residents Association Committee said:

Ian Ayre yesterday claimed that there are obstacles in the way of the redevelopment of the current stadium, but he says it is mostly about getting people to concede to sell their properties. What he doesn’t say is that Liverpool Football Club have been attempting to get people to sell their HOMES by offering them a price (via their purchasing agents GVA Grimleys) which is just not acceptable to the property owners often with the added phrase of “take it or leave it because you won’t get a penny more”.

He stated that Liverpool Football Club already own a lot of properties within the Rockfield Area however at the Housing and Physical Regeneration Strategy Meetings, Liverpool Football Club constantly refuse to say how many properties they do own or what properties if any they have recently purchased.

Some people may well say to themselves “look at the state of the streets in the area, they have lots of boarded up derelict houses in them so why should the club be paying these people decent money for homes in an area like that”? Maybe if people understood that it has been the policy of the club to buy up homes and leave them empty for the past decade, they will understand the anger of the property owners left in these streets when they are offered such a small sum of money for their homes. After all many of these people own their homes outright and given the values placed upon the properties by LFC they would be unable to live a mortgage free life if they sold their homes to the club.

It was announced by Arena Housing Ltd that they would be starting the renovation of their properties in Alroy Road, with work commencing in May 2011. No work has yet commenced is this maybe because Arena are in negotiations with LFC over the ownership of these properties?

The homeowners and residents in the Rockfield area are most certainly not to blame for the empty and derelict homes which blight their lives, but Liverpool Football Club most certainly shoulder some of the responsibility as they have admitted that they own many of these derelict and empty properties that blight the area.

Can you imagine the outcry if a supermarket chain was to buy up homes in an area of the city and then decide to leave them derelict and boarded up for a decade just on the off chance that they may decide to build a store there one day? But this is exactly what Liverpool Football Club has been doing to the residents of the Rockfield Area. Do we get an apology for this reprehensible behaviour? No we are being described as obstacles instead.

Where is our MP Steve Rotheram voicing his outrage at the treatment of the residents? He is nowhere to be seen or heard. Does he reply to any emails or questions that the residents association send him? No he does not, however he was certainly very vocal when he wanted the previous owners of LFC to sell up.

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Old October 14th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #103
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What he doesn’t say is that Liverpool Football Club have been attempting to get people to sell their HOMES by offering them a price (via their purchasing agents GVA Grimleys) which is just not acceptable to the property owners often with the added phrase of “take it or leave it because you won’t get a penny more”.
They have Jen Chang in the wrong job (cf Duncan Jenkins).
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Old October 14th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #104
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Does Liverpool own the houses behind the main stand as when I went there alot of them were empty. If Liverpool could use the land those houses are on building a 2nd tier down that side would be much easier.
The club and council own some, some are still in private hands. These are the houses that we presume are going to be compulsory purchased. My personal thought is that they will add a new tier to the main stand, next add a new larger tier to the anfield rd end and fill in the corners between main stand, anfield rd and Kop. Hopefully 65k is planned over next 4/5 years.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 05:08 PM   #105
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They have Jen Chang in the wrong job (cf Duncan Jenkins).
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Old October 14th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #106
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Extending the kop backwards means a new roof. The views at the back are cramped by the existing roof as is. All for maybe a 1000 seats. More may be difficult because of road behind.

But the corners may be worth doing for an extra 5000 plus. New roof in corners needed and supports for ends of adjoining roofs (see how it was done at Westfalen...)



That would be a great solution to the main stand anfield rd/Kop corners. Surely the cent/Ar/Kop corners would be harder to do and not give up as many new seats though?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 08:54 AM   #107
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Old October 15th, 2012, 11:16 AM   #108
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Liverpool are expected to announce plans to expand Anfield today:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19935925
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Old October 15th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #109
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Is this how it will become? understand there is going to be compulsory purchase orders of properties.

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Old October 15th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #110
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"Big extensions to the stadium’s Main Stand and Anfield Road stand would be built to give the club thousands of extra seats. Though no exact capacity numbers are finalised at this stage, the ECHO understands a figure in the region of 60,000 is anticipated."

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-32032089/
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Old October 15th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #111
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LIVERPOOL Football Club has apologised to the people of Anfield for leaving them living in limbo for more than a decade while it made up its mind whether to stay at its current ground.

At a press conference called to announce £150m plans to revamp its stadium – bringing to an end years of speculation about building a new ground in Stanley Park – club managing director Ian Ayre said “the best thing we can do as apologise and find the right solution.”

The plans are likely to see a number of houses demolished to make way for the redevelopment of the stadium. Over the years, the Reds bought up a number of properties in Lothair Road – immediately behind the ground – but they were left to fall into dereliction.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-32036104/

Which was followed by this comment on the Liverpool Echo blog:

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Old October 15th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #112
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Apologies if this is a bit off topic but is there any mileage in the prospect of Everton taking over the site in Stanley park and moving there themselves?
Planning permision is already given for a stadium after all.
I'm guessing EFC would struggle to finance it unless some major investment was involved but I know they were interested in the site years ago (before it was granted to LFC).

And to bring my post back onto topic.......how would they redevelop the Anfield road stand with the road running right behind it? Are they hoping to redirect the road or maybe build over it?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #113
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LFC confirm intentions to remain at Anfield

How a redeveloped Anfield could look





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Liverpool FC have today confirmed their intentions to remain at Anfield and redevelop their historic stadium.

As reported over the weekend, Liverpool City Council announced a housing regeneration scheme for the Anfield area.

Liverpool FC managing director Ian Ayre was in attendance with Liverpool Mayor Joe Anderson at a press conference at Liverpool Town hall to confirm the plans to work together to make an Anfield redevelopment work.

“We do want to stay put at Anfield and embark on what is a very ambitious, but achievable, stadium development plan, one which significantly increases our capacity and match day revenues”, said Ayre. “And we do hope and expect that it will all happen.”

“Today represents a huge step forward for the Anfield area. Everyone at the football club knows the importance of today,” Ayre said.

“We welcome the opportunity to be part of this partnership – we want to thank Joe Anderson and the council for the time and the support they’ve given us to help make the right decision.”

Anderson revealed how he had recently returned from Boston where he visited Fenway Park with John Henry, saying “Having recently visited Fenway Park, I’m excited about the possibilities to provide jobs and support for the whole community.”

No timescale or confirmed plans for redevelopment have been revealed, and it could be another two years before building begins.

“This is step one as there is land to acquire, plans to be approved etc, but this is a significant moment,” explained Ayre.

“Questions about capacity and cost are not for today – not until we have certainty.”

However, reports suggest a figure of around £150m will be spent to redevelop the Main Stand and Anfield Road Stands.

In an interview with the official Liverpool website, Ayre confirmed that Anfield’s capacity would be maintained “as much as possible” during construction phases.

Ayre also explained the reasoning behind staying at Anfield, rather than building a new stadium, in financial terms. Essentially saying that you can add 15,000 seats to Anfield for less than half the cost of a new stadium which would have the same 60,000 capacity.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #114
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The above will NOT be the design used in any redevelopment. First of all, it retains all the flaws of the the existing main stand (bar the removal of supporting pillars) and bolts on another tier, still using the trussed roof method which would prevent any future expansion in the corners. Secondly, they've forgotten to add any aisles or exits to the Anfield Road upper tier!

It's an ill-thought-out drawing made to look like a distinct possibility.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #115
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The Main Stand and Anfield Road end need demolishing......or it's yet another 'fudge'...like the Centenary stand was.

I can't believe it's 2012 and we still aren't really sure what is happening to the stadium. I'll cut FSG some slack - however, I am trying to think of another major sports club that has been run so ineptly the last 15-20 years.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 11:10 AM   #116
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The Main Stand and Anfield Road end need demolishing......or it's yet another 'fudge'...like the Centenary stand was.

I can't believe it's 2012 and we still aren't really sure what is happening to the stadium. I'll cut FSG some slack - however, I am trying to think of another major sports club that has been run so ineptly the last 15-20 years.
Dont have to look too fair, Everton have been run as poorly, if not worse. They literally have no assets except Goodison left.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #117
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The Main Stand and Anfield Road end need demolishing......or it's yet another 'fudge'...like the Centenary stand was.

I can't believe it's 2012 and we still aren't really sure what is happening to the stadium. I'll cut FSG some slack - however, I am trying to think of another major sports club that has been run so ineptly the last 15-20 years.

Totally aggree.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #118
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I think a lot of PL clubs have been badly run.

Only two of the bigger clubs - the Uniteds - had immediate plans to expand their stadia, with Arsenal belatedly joining them with a new one. Liverpool and Spurs share a similar pattern with a series of plans for expansion (we had planning permission for a new East Stand in 2001) or moving over the last decade. Both have existing plans.

Now it seems we diverge. You look like forgetting the new plans and going for renovation, but with nothing specific this could just be kicking it into the long grass. We plan to go ahead with the new stadium but may not have the financing. My guess is that we will go ahead and have a new stadium by the time you start work on Anfield.

I think both clubs have made the right decision. Our smaller stadium made a new stadium a much better options. Going from 36k to 56/60k is a much more significant increase compared to 45k to 60k, especially when you factor in London ticket prices and corporate interest. Also our owners have acquired the club slowly and stealthily at relatively low cost, so stand to get a better return, while yours had to clear up the H&G mess, even if a friendly judge helped out.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 06:42 PM   #119
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I dont expect to see Anfield done up for another few years at the least. The owners dont have the money. Its as simple as that. I don't think work will even start on the stadium in 2014. I say it will be around 2015/16 that the new Anfield gets redeveloped.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 08:25 PM   #120
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Cowboys 2.0.

They promise to plan... to have a plan... in a couple of years time.
In reality, all they want to do as slash the wage bill, sell a few stars, and leech off the corporate income built on when we were a REAL top flight club.

These foreign parasites make me sick.

2 sides of Anfield are fit for the bulldozer.The exact 2 sides they say they wanna add extra tiers on. Only a mug would believe a single word that passes their lips.

We actually had a better team under Hicks and Gilette, vermin tho they were.
Only difference this time, is most of the debt is currently further up the ownership chain of companies.

But make no mistake, they're plotting more little sleights of hand in that area...
Ever wonder why their "model club" Arsenal are such a selling club under their mate Kroenke?
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