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View Poll Results: Rate Lisbon's publis transport
Excellent 17 30.36%
Very good 20 35.71%
Good 11 19.64%
Fair 2 3.57%
Bad 2 3.57%
Very bad 4 7.14%
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Old October 18th, 2005, 04:55 AM   #161
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Portuguese tiles are a traditional, true means of expression. Those that can appreciate such art know that these art forms expressed in tiles or in portuguese ceramics are of extreme quality. Portuguese metro stations or any other construction related to transport do not (and I hope never will) copy any other system in europe or elsewhere. What is unique about it, is that its truely portuguese!

I was in Lisbon in 2004.

I agree that Portuguese tiles are beautiful and very fitting for the Lisbon Metro. But that theme of using Portuguese tile, “Azulejos”, is not exploited to its highest expression. I was not impressed on the whole.

While some Lisbon Metro stations are beautiful, I just find the design of the system stations (as a whole) is not of consistent in esthetic quality. They are not coherent in design approach and the architecture of the stations is not that original. It takes more than to "azulejos" in the stations to make them original.

I was not suggesting to copy literally the metros in Madrid or Athens but rather to learn from their approach to consistent quality in the architectural design of the stations, creativity in their expressions of cultural identity, and their careful selection of art work for the metro.

Don’t read me wrong: Lisbon's metro is an excelent system but designwise, in my view, it is not as great as it could be considering the rich cultural heritage of Portugal .

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Old October 18th, 2005, 11:07 PM   #162
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Old October 19th, 2005, 04:17 AM   #163
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I think that Madrid and Athens should display art in their subway systems, like Lisbon.
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Old October 19th, 2005, 06:01 AM   #164
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They do have Art - Here is an sample from the Athens Metro - they have an approach consistent and in tuned with their past and present. It is a different approach...























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Old October 20th, 2005, 12:47 AM   #165
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The Athens metro's display of art is nothing compared to that of Lisbon.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 12:54 AM   #166
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The Athens metro's display of art is nothing compared to that of Lisbon.
you are right, they are very different. athens displays centuries old artifacts. both decoration schemes are unique, and I love them both.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 01:33 AM   #167
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you are right, they are very different. athens displays centuries old artifacts. both decoration schemes are unique, and I love them both.
I agree - it's a matter of taste - I just dont find the Lisbon Metro anything special other than...nice. I dont see much in the Lisbon Metro that speaks of Portugal. And use of tile/ceramics is not enough. Its a nice Metro that could be anywhere in the world. For me Athens is a much better designed system and far more unique in its approach
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Old October 20th, 2005, 01:40 AM   #168
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Systagma station is beautiful but the athor stations of Athens are like Syntagma too? all subways have good and better stations and I think Lisbon have very good stations with nice panel´s of tiles and tiles are typical of Lisbon (they are every ware, buildings, churches and etc) like Hellenic culture is tipical of Athens and they use that very well in ther stations.
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Systagma station is beautiful but the athor stations of Athens are like Syntagma too? all subways have good and better stations and I think Lisbon have very good stations with nice panel´s of tiles and tiles are typical of Lisbon (they are every ware, buildings, churches and etc) like Hellenic culture is tipical of Athens and they use that very well in ther stations.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 04:01 AM   #170
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Systagma station is beautiful but the athor stations of Athens are like Syntagma too? all subways have good and better stations and I think Lisbon have very good stations with nice panel´s of tiles and tiles are typical of Lisbon (they are every ware, buildings, churches and etc) like Hellenic culture is tipical of Athens and they use that very well in ther stations.
There is nothing unique or special about the Lisbon Metro - I have been to Portugal several times (last time in 2004) and do love Portugal but the overall quality of the Metro is not that great. I can think of many metros inside and outside Europe that are far better. Maybe I am a little hard in my critique because i am an Architect and for me it takes more that just colorful tile to make a metro system design great. I will leave it at that. Good Luck
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its your opinion!!
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I agree - it's a matter of taste - I just dont find the Lisbon Metro anything special other than...nice. I dont see much in the Lisbon Metro that speaks of Portugal. And use of tile/ceramics is not enough. Its a nice Metro that could be anywhere in the world. For me Athens is a much better designed system and far more unique in its approach
This can only be said by someone who is obviously not Portuguese. Anyway, I guess it's like explaining to someone what Fado is.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 04:31 PM   #173
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I agree - it's a matter of taste - I just dont find the Lisbon Metro anything special other than...nice. I dont see much in the Lisbon Metro that speaks of Portugal. And use of tile/ceramics is not enough. Its a nice Metro that could be anywhere in the world. For me Athens is a much better designed system and far more unique in its approach
Athens metro is OBVIOUSLY as it is, because its practically brand new!!!!

I think such suggestions, although I respect them, should be sent to New York's metro transport authorities......or Boston's for that matter.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 04:56 PM   #174
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ele nunca há de perceber Paulo..
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Old October 20th, 2005, 05:04 PM   #175
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Old October 21st, 2005, 03:01 AM   #176
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Lisbon still the best in the arts.
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Very unique system.
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Old October 27th, 2005, 04:12 AM   #178
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Further pics of Lisbon's subway







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Old November 11th, 2005, 07:39 PM   #180
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Oi Paulo -

Quick question about the picture showing the blue tile ceiling with the escalators on either side: what is the purpose of the bars along the side of the staircase? Is it meant to keep someone from falling all the way down the steps if they trip? It seems that the bars would get in the way and do more harm than good. Just curious.

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