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Old April 23rd, 2012, 01:48 AM   #2281
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CHI is actually pretty low on the list when it comes to total number of skyscrapers....

Buildings over 200m completed:
Dubai: 63 (#5)
Hong Kong: 62 (#1)
New York: 54 (#2)
Shanghai: 44 (#3)
Chicago: 27 (#4)
Agree. In a few years, Chicago will have more in common with cities like Guangzhou and Toronto than it will with Shanghai and New York (by # of skyscrapers). Regarding New York, I'm eagerly awaiting those buildings going up. It's good to see New York getting back in the game. I already have New York at #1, but you gotta protect your lead!
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 01:56 AM   #2282
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City: # of buildings 100 metres or more---Combined Heights in metres

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08. Ghuangzhou: 295---42,865

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Informative list!
Thanks a lot for the effort mate!
It is Guangzhou, btw
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:22 AM   #2283
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does anyone have an actual supertall list? Dubai is No.1 but then? NYC, Chicago, HK, Guangzhou..??
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:38 AM   #2284
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Paris, London, Moscow and LA arent better than KL imho.
you excluded frankfurt?
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:39 AM   #2285
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Informative list!
Thanks a lot for the effort mate!
It is Guangzhou, btw
No problem! It does put things into perspective. Notice that cities like London and Vancouver don't even make the list. A 100 m cut off negates a huge chunk of their skylines from consideration and make you realize how short most of it is. Quantitative measures don't tell the whole story, but it's a good starting off point.

P.S. I hate spelling mistakes, so thanks for the heads up. I've corrected the mistake.
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=3742

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vancouver has one 200m+ building and 42 buildings that stand 100m+
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:53 AM   #2287
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And Vancouver looks exceptionally awesome

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Quantitative measures don't tell the whole story, but it's a good starting off point.
I agree 100%

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you excluded frankfurt?
Sid replied to a user who didn't even have Frankfurt in his list..
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Hongkong Newyork Shanghai Chicago Dubai Tokyo
these are my confirmed top 6 time and time again
while, Singapore, Sydney, Toronto, Paris, London, Moscow, Los angels, Guangzhou can compete for the rest four to be in top10

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does anyone have an actual supertall list? Dubai is No.1 but then? NYC, Chicago, HK, Guangzhou..??
I don't have such a list, but according to that one (Wikipedia):

Dubai: 17
HK: 6
Chicago: 6
NY: 4
Guangzhou: 4
Shanghai: 3
Shenzhen: 3
Abu Dhabi: 3
KL: 3
Kuwait City: 2
Houston: 2

1WTC, Mercury City Tower and most other U/C buildings with a height already above 300m are not included though..
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 03:05 AM   #2288
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does anyone have an actual supertall list? Dubai is No.1 but then? NYC, Chicago, HK, Guangzhou..??
I couldn't find one, so I've tabulated one. Built and Topped Out only.

Dubai 17
Hong Kong 6
Chicago 6
Guangzhou 5
New York 4

Shanghai 3
Kuala Lumpur 3
Abu Dhabi 3
Shenzhen 2
Houston 2

Mecca 1
Taipei 1
Nanjing 1
Kuwait City 1
Kaohsiung 1
Tianjin 1
Hanoi 1
Wuhan 1
Pyongyang 1
Beijing 1
Jiangyin 1
Gold Coast 1
Wenzhou 1
Atlanta 1
Los Angeles 1
London 1
Incheon 1
Bangkok 1
Riyadh 1
Moscow 1
Busan 1
Santiago 1
Kuwait City 1
Doha 1

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/crea...=on&list_year=
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 05:00 AM   #2289
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Im going based off of Emporis numbers!

http://www.emporis.com/statistics/mo...ties-worldwide

1 Hong Kong 1,223
2 New York City 564
3 Tokyo 344
4 Chicago 282
5 Dubai 230
6 Shanghai 229
7 Toronto 154
8 Singapore 134
9 Bangkok 122

And Emporis lists skylines like this
http://www.emporis.com/statistics/skyline-ranking

# City Population Area size Number of buildings Number of points
1 Hong Kong 6,943,600 1,053 mi² 7,692 128,651
2 New York City 8,175,133 800 mi² 5,968 40,334
3 Chicago 2,695,598 589 mi² 1,128 19,565
4 Singapore 4,351,400 710 mi² 4,382 19,457
5 Seoul 10,331,244 616 mi² 2,888 17,500
6 São Paulo 10,990,249 1,523 mi² 5,672 17,255
7 Dubai 1,954,000 3,885 mi² 604 16,978
8 Shanghai 9,145,711 6,639 mi² 999 15,696
9 Bangkok 7,587,882 1,569 mi² 875 14,706
10 Tokyo 8,653,000 621 mi² 2,704 13,431
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Emporis is notorious for being incomplete/out of date.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 07:57 AM   #2291
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Those Emporis figures seem very outdated.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 06:58 PM   #2293
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Emporis is notorious for being incomplete/out of date.
The numbers are completely different, so outdated wouldn't be the word. Also, emporis is the 1# resource when it comes to buildings, and if you check their database, you can see it includes all the new buildings. Notice how Dubai is past Shanghai.

Also here is what it says on their website "The information provided through these statistics is updated daily"

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Old April 23rd, 2012, 07:15 PM   #2294
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I thought NYC only had 2 supertalls, then again BoA and NYTT are "supertalls". But with the topping off of 1WTC and One57 this year, NYC will have 6 again.
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Its so difficult to put just ten in the top ten. I feel like I could squeeze in 20 in there...

1. New York
2. Hong Kong
3. Shanghai
4. Chicago
5. Singapore
6. Kuala Lumpur
7. Toronto
8. Dubai
9. Sydney
10. San Francisco

I guess you can tell that height and density to me isn't much of a big factor - but balance, architecture, and layering even scenery. That's why Guangzhou, Tokyo and Shenzen will never make it to my top ten imo
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:59 PM   #2296
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For those who are interested in NY development, here's a cool link:
Future Supertalls
NY skyscrapers (list)
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The numbers are completely different, so outdated wouldn't be the word. Also, emporis is the 1# when it comes to buildings, and if you check their database, you can see it includes all the new buildings. Notice how Dubai is past Shanghai.

Also here is what it says on their website "The information provided through these statistics is updated daily"
LOL, it's indeed a reliable database only if you are from the us.
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The numbers are completely different, so outdated wouldn't be the word. Also, emporis is the 1# resource when it comes to buildings, and if you check their database, you can see it includes all the new buildings.
I think you'll find that Emporis has lost all credibility here on SSC. There are hundreds and hundreds of buildings missing from their data base. It's hopelessly incomplete. CTBUH's data base is far more up to date.

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I thought NYC only had 2 supertalls, then again BoA and NYTT are "supertalls". But with the topping off of 1WTC and One57 this year, NYC will have 6 again.
Correct, the CTBUH database site 'skycrapercenter' lists the following 4 super talls for New York:

1. Empire State Building-----381 m
2. Bank of America Tower-----366 m
3. Chrysler Building-----319 m
4. New York Times Tower-----319 m


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Its so difficult to put just ten in the top ten. I feel like I could squeeze in 20 in there...

1. New York
2. Hong Kong
3. Shanghai
4. Chicago
5. Singapore
6. Kuala Lumpur
7. Toronto
8. Dubai
9. Sydney
10. San Francisco

I guess you can tell that height and density to me isn't much of a big factor - but balance, architecture, and layering even scenery. That's why Guangzhou, Tokyo and Shenzen will never make it to my top ten imo
There certainly are lots of cities one could put in a top 10. I have a bit of trouble putting Guangzhou, Tokyo, and Shenzhen in there as well. Tokyo does have a good cluster, but it tends to get lost in the vastness of the city. If you isolate that cluster by itself, it's quite good. Guangzhou is developing a good focal point as well. Shenzhen is a big mess, I agree with you 100% there.

Do you think Dubai is starting to come together? It's still not my cup of tea, but it has a balance to it that was absent 5 years ago.
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For those who are interested in NY development, here's a cool link:
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I'm officially green with envy. Every single one of them is 1st rate.
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