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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:12 AM   #2321
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Yeah, the ESB is going to get a lot of competition in the next years.
Towers under construction or in preparation that will be taller than the ESB:
- 1WTC (545m)
- 432 Park Avenue (432m)
- 2WTC (411m)
- Hudson Yards North Tower (400m)

And the 300m+ towers:
- ESB (381m)
- 15 Penn Plaza (371m)
- One Manhattan West (370m)
- Bank of America Tower (366m)
- 225 West 57th Street (366m+)
- 3WTC (352m)
- Conde Nast Building (341m)
- Girasole (323m)
- Tower Verre (320m)
- Chrysler Building (319m)
- NYTT (319m)
- Hudson Yards South Tower (310m)
- One57 (306m)
- Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower (300m+)

One could say, NY is clearing its way for a megatall tower. This decade we'll see at least one 600m+ proposal.
I could see a 600m building in the next 50 years maybe, but for atleast the next 20 years, I think 1 WTC will remain king of NYC.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 03:54 AM   #2322
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Old May 5th, 2012, 04:17 AM   #2323
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Ye can't really see Chicago in the top 5 anymore, sad but true.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 05:04 AM   #2324
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Right, I was noticing some interesting things about Dubai, first off it's waterfront isn't built up, and It has a bunch of buildings, but they are in a straight line, any idea why they only seem to build along sheikh zayek road ? I also was wondering why the buildings are so far from the waterfront ? Because of the desert, Dubai looks very empty, and I think it will be a long time until it has a built up skyline. Also I have to ask, does Dubai just keep building for no reason, or is there an actual need for apartment and office space ?
I don't know all that much about Dubai, but skyscrapers tend to get built where other skyscrapers exist and major transportation infrastructure like roads/subways are located. It's why so much of Dubai is built along Sheikh Zayed Road.

When you look at Toronto, it's built away from the lake and then fans out on Bloor Street 3km from the waterfront. It developed that way because buildings clustered along the subway lines: one running north up Yonge, the other east-west along Bloor.

Dubai is trying to turn themselves into the regional hub for all the Middle East, East Africa, and the Indian sub-continent. To many in this region, Dubai is this oasis of wealth. Dubai's growth has historically been due to tourism, trade, and logistics, but real estate became the main driver till it went bust.

The population of Dubai increases quite a bit every year, so I doubt these skyscrapers are going empty. They did over build though. Let's keep in mind that only 10 years ago, Dubai and Tulsa had about the same population.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:22 AM   #2325
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I don't know all that much about Dubai, but skyscrapers tend to get built where other skyscrapers exist and major transportation infrastructure like roads/subways are located. It's why so much of Dubai is built along Sheikh Zayed Road.

When you look at Toronto, it's built away from the lake and then fans out on Bloor Street 3km from the waterfront. It developed that way because buildings clustered along the subway lines: one running north up Yonge, the other east-west along Bloor.

Dubai is trying to turn themselves into the regional hub for all the Middle East, East Africa, and the Indian sub-continent. To many in this region, Dubai is this oasis of wealth. Dubai's growth has historically been due to tourism, trade, and logistics, but real estate became the main driver till it went bust.

The population of Dubai increases quite a bit every year, so I doubt these skyscrapers are going empty. They did over build though. Let's keep in mind that only 10 years ago, Dubai and Tulsa had about the same population.
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Dubai and Tulsa had about the same population.
That's true. It's funny, usually I say that density isn't the most important thing, but the problem is that Dubai has 0 density, It's mostly one road with buildings on both sides, then if you go out of that area it's a barren desert, excluding the area where the Burj Khalifa is. For that reason, Dubai barely makes my top 10. Dubai is a skyline in progress, but it has a long way to go before it looks like a city, and not a desert with some freakishly tall buildings.

Here is an excerpt from a professional skyscraper list online that hits the nail on the head.

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this skyline might just leap to the number 1 spot in the near future. Well, maybe not. Although there is a lot of hype around the city, experts agree it still lacks that certain mature socio-cultural infrastructure and a pattern to the skyline that gives a city that certain fingerprint. As a skyline it can't compete with the larger cities, however the individual buildings in this city are by far the greatest examples of modern architectural accomplishments.
http://www.diserio.com/dubaiskyline.html

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1. 1990 NYC- before 9/11
2. Chicago
3. NYC
4. HK
5. Shanghai
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Old May 5th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #2326
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Yeah, diserio has a good concept of evaluating skylines. Unfortunately, it's pretty outdated (it says HK has 48 building over 200m, where in reality we have over 60 lol).

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I could see a 600m building in the next 50 years maybe, but for atleast the next 20 years, I think 1 WTC will remain king of NYC.
Times are changing fast, especially in big cities like NY. Who would have thought a couple of years ago the NY would build a 432m tall residential skyscraper? Probably noone.
I'm just detecting a trend here- namely to build tall once again (after 9/11).
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If there's been one thing that's surprised me about all the proposals in NY, is that there's been no noise from Trump. He's a born and raised NYer and in the past has been vocal about building the tallest building in NY, and made a couple of attempts with Television City and the NYSE Building over the years.

But I do agree that a 600m building is probably out of the question until the next building cycle. Even though almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate predates 1970, and there's huge demand for high end condos, rentals and new hotel rooms, a 600m building would really require sort of a perfect storm. A very strong economy, cheap credit, and probably most importantly, a developer who wants to build the tallest building in NY, and sort of starts there and then figures out a way to make it economically viable.

Props to Otie for digging these up and posting them on SSP.

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Old May 5th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #2328
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Old May 6th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #2329
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MY ULTIMATE SKYLINES LIST OF THE WORLD!

1. HONG KONG of CHINA- Asia
2. NEW YORK of USA- North America
3. CHICAGO of USA- North America
4. SHANGHAI of CHINA- Asia
5. DUBAI of UAE- Asia
6. KUALA LUMPUR of MALAYSIA- Asia
7. TORONTO of CANADA- North America
8. SINGAPORE of SINGAPORE- Asia
9. GUANGZHOU of CHINA- Asia
10. SYDNEY of AUSTRALIA- Oceania

11. VANCOUVER of CANADA- North America
12. SHENZHEN of CHINA- Asia
13. SEATLE of USA- North America
14. DOHA of QATAR- Asia
15. TOKYO of JAPAN- Asia
16. MELBOURNE of AUSTRALIA- Oceania
17. BEIJING of CHINA- Asia
18. OSAKA of JAPAN- Asia
19. LONDON of ENGLAND- EUROPE
20. PHILADELPHIA of USA- North America

21. MANILA of PHILIPPINES- Asia
22. ABU DHABI of UAE- Asia
23. BANGKOK of THAILAND- Asia
24. BUSAN of SOUTH KOREA- Asia
25. CHONGQING of CHINA- Asia
26. SEOUL of SOUTH KOREA- Asia
26. PANAMA CITY of PANAMA- South America
27. SANTIAGO of CHILE- South America
28. JAKARTA of INDONESIA- Asia
29. MIAMI of USA- North America
30. PARIS of FRANCE- Europe


THESE ARE MY TOP CITIES AFTER CONSIDERING THEIR OWN MERITS OF ICONS,LANDSCAPES,FOCAL POINT CLUSTERS,CITY AT LARGE,DENSITY,NATURAL ADD VALUES AND AESTHETIC VALUES.
This evaluation were based on every city's own very best photos of the 2012 latest that can be gotten on google,our forums and the nets. Nothing more fairer than we evaluating each city with their best pictures, not what blueprint datas that have been set in our perspective before.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #2330
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Yeah, diserio has a good concept of evaluating skylines. Unfortunately, it's pretty outdated (it says HK has 48 building over 200m, where in reality we have over 60 lol).



Times are changing fast, especially in big cities like NY. Who would have thought a couple of years ago the NY would build a 432m tall residential skyscraper? Probably noone.
I'm just detecting a trend here- namely to build tall once again (after 9/11).
I would say it's recent enough to be a good source. Excluding HK, the top 5 haven't changed that much except Chicago which added the Trump International tower. He has also updated the sidebar on everything but Hong Kong, not sure why he hasn't updated HK, but he probably will soon.

He just posted this on his website

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J. Rizal... Nice photos of Manila! It will make the top 45, the version 5.0 is being worked on as we speak, should be released next month.
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South East Asian Skylines

Singapore, SG.

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Kuala Lumpur, MAL.

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Jakarta, IND.



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Bangkok, TH.



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Saigon, VT.

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Old May 6th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #2332
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If there's been one thing that's surprised me about all the proposals in NY, is that there's been no noise from Trump. He's a born and raised NYer and in the past has been vocal about building the tallest building in NY, and made a couple of attempts with Television City and the NYSE Building over the years.

But I do agree that a 600m building is probably out of the question until the next building cycle. Even though almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate predates 1970, and there's huge demand for high end condos, rentals and new hotel rooms, a 600m building would really require sort of a perfect storm. A very strong economy, cheap credit, and probably most importantly, a developer who wants to build the tallest building in NY, and sort of starts there and then figures out a way to make it economically viable.

Props to Otie for digging these up and posting them on SSP.

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WOW Love this pic, such a good angle of NYC
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Old May 6th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #2333
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That Battery face-on angle of New York is one of my favorites of that city. It brings to mind some enormous ship steaming your way, about to run you right over and sail on past, unstoppable.
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Love it too. Here's one of Hogtown:


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Old May 8th, 2012, 10:26 AM   #2335
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Found by Otie, props to him...


(Reuters/Gary Hershorn)The full moon rises over the skyline of Lower Manhattan and One World Trade Center in New York, as seen from West Orange, New Jersey, on May 6, 2012.

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Few more of NYC, don't think people will mind. Still my #2 behind Chicago, but it won't be there for very much longer...

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Old May 8th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #2337
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Few more of NYC, don't think people will mind. Still my #2 behind Chicago, but it won't be there for very much longer...

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Totally Agree, Chicago and NYC will always be my top 2. They have architectural diversity like no other city, they both also have the largest collection of art deco buildings in the world. HK is pretty amazing, but I can't get past the commie blocks and lack of architectural diversity.

It's crazy how much Chicago has grown between 2000-2010, and it's crazy how much NYC will grow between 2012-2020. Chicago also has 3 200m proposals currently, and that number is growing as the market starts to recover, and it also has tons of buildings U/C, and proposed in the 100-200m range, and finished several tall skyscrapers in the past few years including the 423 meter Trump International building.

NYC also has tons of tall buildings UC, and proposed, such as 1 WTC,Torre Verre, and Girasole, and has several 300m buildings proposed. So both cities have a great future.

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Why is it that I've only just discovered this thread!!

NYC FTW!

My top 5 would be...

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Ye can't really see Chicago in the top 5 anymore, sad but true.
absurd, in terms of size, height and athsetics it's still in the top 5.
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