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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:54 PM   #2781
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Old November 9th, 2012, 05:47 AM   #2782
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Old November 11th, 2012, 01:06 AM   #2783
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Old November 11th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #2784
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No.1 skyline has Dubai, the question for me is, which is No.2 - Shenzhen has amazing skyline, but only 2 supertall buildings at the moment (+ 6 supertall buildings U/C). But Guangzhou has 5 supertall buildings now (more than NY) + megatall Canton Tower, so I vote Guangzhou for 2012

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Old November 11th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #2785
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Old November 11th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #2786
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Old November 12th, 2012, 02:35 AM   #2787
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Old November 12th, 2012, 04:20 AM   #2788
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Dubai is an incredible city, but it feels incomplete. Instead of a big bustling city, it looks more like a reservoir of skyscrapers in the middle of the desert.

If it ever looks like this, then it will be the best skyline in the world. -

But right now it looks more like this -

It doesn't need tons of massive towers, just a balanced skyline, and they need to increase low and mid rise development in the area around the main part of Dubai, so it looks less like a desert and more like a city.

Instead of building 400m buildings everywhere, they should be focusing on towers in the 200-300 meter range to balance things out.
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Old November 12th, 2012, 04:42 AM   #2789
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Dubai will eventually 'fill in'. Till then, the criticisms are valid.
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Old November 12th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #2790
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It'll likely be after 2050. It will take a long, long time for a country its size to fill in so much space. I don't see these buildings boasting at least 75% occupancy in the next 35 to 40 years or so. Not to mention the space being used now is a fraction of what needs to be filled in terms of a skyscraper city. Unless something extremely major happens economically, I don't see it filling in all that space even by 2065.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #2791
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I wonder how big is too big? Some cities like shenzhen are so built up and out that it doesnt really have the typical definition of a skyline. But Dubai avoids this since the skyline is pretty linear
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Old November 13th, 2012, 01:53 AM   #2792
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Looking down Sheikh Zayed, Dubai is quite underwhelming.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 06:24 AM   #2793
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Looking down Sheikh Zayed, Dubai is quite underwhelming.
Exactly. Imagine how amazing it would be if the area around that road was filled in. Here is where the problem lies :








There are 18 supertalls, and Dubai has 900 high rise buildings, that is about half of Toronto's total high rises. What does this tell us ? Dubai should have aimed for maybe 5 supertalls, and built more buildings in the 50-200m range. Think about it, how often do you see a 10,15, or 20 story building in Dubai ? It's rare. Everything is skyscrapers, and 5 stories or less. There is no in between, that is the problem with Dubai.
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But that's what, 8-10 miles between the Marina and the southern end of the Sheikh Zayed where the Burj is? I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment, but I personally doubt that will ever happen.

And in Dubai's defense, I'm sure there were plans to link the two skylines, and have huge amounts of infill, but then the 2008 crash happened and what we're left with is a fraction of what was intended to be built, case and point Business Bay is almost entirely empty. So I think we can agree, Dubai is still very much a work in progress. It really seems to be the two extremes of, intense verticality, and barren, uninhabited horizontal stretches. It has to grow into its skyline.


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It'll likely be after 2050. It will take a long, long time for a country its size to fill in so much space. I don't see these buildings boasting at least 75% occupancy in the next 35 to 40 years or so. Not to mention the space being used now is a fraction of what needs to be filled in terms of a skyscraper city. Unless something extremely major happens economically, I don't see it filling in all that space even by 2065.
Don't forget the stability of the Middle East.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 02:40 AM   #2795
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True, but the Middle East is losing control globally with oil. The U.S. might actually produce more oil than Saudi Arabia in the next ten years and be the best in the world at something again. What most people don't know is that we have 29 years worth of oil already barreled in the country as we speak, so if we quit depending on the Middle East, we could stay oil independent until 2041. Not to mention the push of our government towards less restrictions on oil drilling to lead our nation to independence in that field. It's our best hope honestly for reducing the debt ceiling.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #2796
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True, but the Middle East is losing control globally with oil. The U.S. might actually produce more oil than Saudi Arabia in the next ten years and be the best in the world at something again. What most people don't know is that we have 29 years worth of oil already barreled in the country as we speak, so if we quit depending on the Middle East, we could stay oil independent until 2041.
You're confusing being the biggest with being the best, they're not the same thing. Another puzzling thing is how Americans still think they're dependent on the Middle East for oil. Most US oil imports come from either Canada or Mexico and have for a very long time.

It's almost like Americans are stuck in 1972. The world has changed.
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I never claimed to be an expert on the topic , but my main point was that the Middle East nations can't keep depending on being the largest oil producers globally. Once those nations run out of oil, their economies will have a dark, unassured future. (Yeah, I know I got a little off topic.)
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