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Old January 7th, 2015, 02:16 AM   #6621
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Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chongqing still have a lot to do before they can conquer the beast.


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Old January 7th, 2015, 02:44 AM   #6622
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You do realize Guangzhou's skyline is not multi-nodal like Shenzhen?
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Well Shenzhen does lack in density because of it's urban planning. Shenzhen has potential in Qianhai and Houhai. As of now, both Futian and Luohu are very spread out

definitely, supertall spread apart
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Old January 7th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #6623
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Do people prefer Shanghai or Hong Kong? I've been partial to the former.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 03:14 AM   #6624
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I like Shanghai better too though I've never seen Hong Kong in person.

Obviously they're both insanely impressive, like NY vs. Chicago.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 05:28 AM   #6625
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Shanghai's urban expanse is larger, so if you go up to a tall vantage point, the sea of skyscrapers is more massive than Hong Kong. However, Hong Kong has more natural beauty with the mountain landscape that frames the skyline against the harbour.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 06:49 AM   #6626
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Old January 7th, 2015, 06:56 AM   #6627
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Reminds me a little of University Avenue in Toronto (looking south from Queen) although I prefer this New York vista. It has better 'energy'.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 04:05 PM   #6628
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Old January 7th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #6630
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For me, it's the skyline of New York hands down It is vivid, you never get tired of looking at it and be it just pictures, it is a mixture featuring every single generation of skyscraper building and architectural styles.

Most remarkably, at least for me though is the fact that NY basically is the birthplace of large-scale skyscraper construction. NY is to highrises, skyscrapers and supertalls what Rome, Paris, Lisbon, etc etc are to, say, "regular houses" or sacral buildings.
This is also why I think that a Dubai or Abu Dhabi will never even have the chance of getting close may they build a whole row of 1000m+ scrapers or whatever.
Also first time posting for me so hi guys
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Old January 8th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #6631
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Old January 8th, 2015, 01:12 AM   #6632
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For me, it's the skyline of New York hands down It is vivid, you never get tired of looking at it and be it just pictures, it is a mixture featuring every single generation of skyscraper building and architectural styles.

Most remarkably, at least for me though is the fact that NY basically is the birthplace of large-scale skyscraper construction. NY is to highrises, skyscrapers and supertalls what Rome, Paris, Lisbon, etc etc are to, say, "regular houses" or sacral buildings.
This is also why I think that a Dubai or Abu Dhabi will never even have the chance of getting close may they build a whole row of 1000m+ scrapers or whatever.
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Chicago is the birthplace of the skyscraper. Not only is the cradle of skyscrapers but a living museum of the evolution of tall structures. Chicago is Mecca when it comes to skyscrapers.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 02:08 AM   #6633
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Chicago made the first skyscraper, but NYC took it a step further by going taller and taller. Chicago never had the world's tallest title until Sears Tower came along. Its first 200m+ tower was finished in 1969. By that time, NYC was already building the twin 400m+ towers of the WTC. After the Singer Building in 1908, NYC kept surpassing itself with newer, taller buildings and held onto the title. Chicago never had a race to the tallest like Manhattan in the 30s. That being said, Chicago today is amazing and easily a top 5 world skyline.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 02:10 AM   #6634
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I think my top 5 are NY, Chicago, Hong Kong, Singapore, and seattle/ San francisco/ toronto.

I used to have Shanghai in my top 5 but, i think the Shanghai tower ruins it for me. Its a nice tower individually, but i think the skyline is just lop sided. Guangzhou would also be in my top 5, but i only find it impressive in certain spots, not as a skyline overall.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 06:36 AM   #6635
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Chicago made the first skyscraper, but NYC took it a step further by going taller and taller. Chicago never had the world's tallest title until Sears Tower came along. Its first 200m+ tower was finished in 1969. By that time, NYC was already building the twin 400m+ towers of the WTC. After the Singer Building in 1908, NYC kept surpassing itself with newer, taller buildings and held onto the title. Chicago never had a race to the tallest like Manhattan in the 30s. That being said, Chicago today is amazing and easily a top 5 world skyline.
You speak like height is all that matters. If that were the case, cities like Dubai and Shanghai would have already blown New York out of the water.

Chicago is rightfully the birthplace of the skyscraper because it is there that technologies for skyscrapers (such as structural, cladding, and vertical circulation systems) were developed. New York imported these technologies and, because of its strong economic presence in the US and in the world, was able to build taller and in larger numbers. Chicago is to skyscrapers what Detroit is to automobiles and what Los Angeles is to cinema.

Chicago remains the best illustration of the history and development of the skyscraper. The first iron-framed building was built in Chicago. The Empire State building was built using this structural system later on. The Aon Center in Chicago was the first megatall with a frame tube structure. The WTC twin towers in in New York later copied this system. Chicago also has the first skyscraper to use a braced tube, the Hancock Center. New York is only now building its own version of a megatall that uses this system - Torre Verre. The list goes on and on.

Not to go too far back in time, the current world tallest (Burj Dubai) and the world's tallest under construction (Kingdom Tower) were designed by Chicago-based architects and engineers. They both use a tripod-style buttressed mast structural system. The system was conceived by the Chicago school.

Finally, the development of skyscraper technologies in Chicago enabled New York to bloom. Similarly, the skyscraper booms in New York fueled the construction of more highrises in Chicago. There are entire papers dedicated to the topic of this symbiotic relationship (a good one by Jason Barr published on a CTBUH journal last year). Neither city would be what it is today if both did not exist. I am attaching two graphs from Barr's publication so that everyone can understand the close relationship between these two cities in terms of skyscraper construction:



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So. Cold.


And that right there is why I don't live in Chicago, otherwise I would
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Old January 8th, 2015, 07:20 PM   #6638
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New york new york...

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