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Old January 11th, 2015, 05:56 AM   #6661
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Dubai and Shanghai has an impressive skyline and it won't be long before they became more glorious than NYC (given the current state of progress) but for now, NYC has established itself as the most famous skyline in the world so hats off for such feat.
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Old January 11th, 2015, 07:14 AM   #6662
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Dubai and Shanghai has an impressive skyline and it won't be long before they became more glorious than NYC (given the current state of progress) but for now, NYC has established itself as the most famous skyline in the world so hats off for such feat.
What state of progress are you talking about? The 20+ supertalls proposed/uc in NYC, considering thats more than both dubai and shanghai currently have proposed or uc combined
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Old January 11th, 2015, 08:10 AM   #6663
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Old January 11th, 2015, 09:07 AM   #6664
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Never liked Vancouver's skyline. "Smoke and mirrors" if you ask me. The residentials with the high floor counts make it look more impressive than it really is. Otherwise it's really just too short to be given so much credit. If it was possible to put skylines side by side and drive through the middle of them for a true comparison, Vancouver would be lucky to be Top 15 in North America.
Hmm, I find this rather bizarre. You're condemning Vancouver's skyline for being designed in a way that makes it appear so impressive you'd need a side by side comparison to tell it's true size? I accept your right to criticize but that sounds more like an amazing compliment than a criticism. Don't most cities want to maximize their resources to make themselves as impressive as possible? Any place can build an impressive skyline if it's large enough and has enough funds. But to do so without a large population or economy seems a much more impressive feat...
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Old January 11th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #6665
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Old January 11th, 2015, 01:02 PM   #6666
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Its too aerial, cant see the skyline
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Old January 11th, 2015, 01:39 PM   #6667
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Shang to the Hai



www.sinaimg.cn

city centre

SCROLL----->>>

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Shanghai by radics.geza, on Flickr

inner city ring


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Shanghai: Putuo and Jingan districts von Lowcola auf Flickr


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Downtown highway junction von Lowcola auf Flickr




interesting also, the 'suburbs', full of highrise developments and random skyscrapers sticking out every now and then:








the less developed new Pudong side and it's suburbs:


http://vincentloy.files.wordpress.com


contrasted with the Puxi side suburbs - scroll right:


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Old January 11th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #6668
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City centre Shanghai

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Dimmed Moon (Explore 2013-03-05) /月朦胧 von Brady Fang auf Flickr

Walking in Pudong by demerval, on Flickr

Nanpu Bridge by mars.was.here, on Flickr

Shanghai Nanjing Road by Tommy Lin, on Flickr


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Shanghai by An-ToNio Foto, on Flickr




Shanghai, CHINA by Jack Jablonski /// JJ Photography, on Flickr



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Shanghai by Kris Van de Sande, on Flickr



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Old January 11th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #6669
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Old January 11th, 2015, 02:29 PM   #6670
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Shanghai density exceed. HK and NY, capital of future skyscrapers
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Old January 11th, 2015, 03:03 PM   #6671
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Suburbs seems to be so depressing though ..
Shanghai must change it's urban planning and stop building endless commiblocks in the suburbs , the problem is that they exist even in the city core and near the picturesque part of the city that is pudong , you can see them by sattelite around the highrises of lujiazui colored in red or blue and they are really disgusting ...
Shanghai deserves better urban planning and the city must raise them if it wants to become an international capital and not like any other chinese city .

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HK is unbeatable when it comes to highrises density I think , But Shanghai is clearly improving it's skyline and it's density while HK isn't building anything really interesting that add something to it's skyline since IFC . Even Tokyo wich isn't known for it's skyline is having more important developments than Hk with approx 50 100m+ buildings U/C and 4 200m+ U/C wich is impressive for a horizental city like Tokyo .

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Old January 11th, 2015, 04:41 PM   #6672
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Commieblocks are good urban planning when a heavy rail line can sustain it and people don't need to drive around everywhere like in the unsustainable Americanized suburbia.

I wonder whether Buenos Aries has a greater mass of skyscrapers than Shanghai?
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Old January 11th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #6673
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Maybe it s efficient but visually it's really bad and combined with the pollution it becomes an eyesore .
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Old January 11th, 2015, 05:45 PM   #6674
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Yea those aerials of shanghai look awful
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Old January 11th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #6675
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NYC - some older aerial shots


Manhattan, the whole kit n' caboodle! by L1mey, on Flickr


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Old January 11th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #6676
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Suburbs seems to be so depressing though ..
Shanghai must change it's urban planning and stop building endless commiblocks in the suburbs , the problem is that they exist even in the city
core and near the picturesque part of the city that is pudong , you can see them by sattelite around the highrises of lujiazui colored in red or blue
and they are really disgusting ...
Shanghai deserves better urban planning and the city must raise them if it wants to become an international capital and not like any other chinese city .

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I wouldn't slate them completely - one should give them time to mature before passing judgement. Most of those are new, and in the ribbon
development stage, the step where the municipal govt appropriates rural land then changes it into urban land. This usually involves bitty
developments on the edges of town, similar to Western exurbs, as the first stage. Bear in mind the city has to house up to 10,000 newcomers
a day without denigrating into vast shantytowns. Also the blue rooved ones in Pudong will likely be torn down as that half densifies and builds upward.

By Chinese law, passed in 2003 after a year long moratorium on tall buildings in Shanghai (worried it was becoming a vast urban jungle)
x amount of people now have to live in y vicinity of z amount of green space. This is the result, of matured neighbourhoods nearer the centre:








new builds put gardens below, 1990s builds retrofit them in (or are torn down entirely)


www.cheaprooms.com, http://oldimg.echinacities.com
[img]http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/170090524-shanghai-old-town-at-nightfall-***********.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=p9RkqJNTd3km8BD13jlzW3Z8xtvwKK4DKfSLhxqCEVeuVu891oVIBqPos7gUrQLC[/img]
www.aquaspace.com.cn



A working class shikumen district after it's middle class makeover:




My worry is the loss of shikumen neighbourhoods of Sino-British styles that once marked Shanghai as the world's largest Old Town
(or slum depending on how you look at it) before the skyscrapers went up, and that still carpets the centre below the highrises. Their rooves
make the city appear russet coloured from above:

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http://designhistorylab.com

http://voyage.destinationchine.com

http://i2.cdn.turner.com, www.cultural-china.com
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before restoration:



www.shanghaihighlights.com, www.etripchina.com, www.wheelybiketours.com


www.chinapictorial.com.cn


after:


www.mildchina.com, www.everytrail.com

http://studyinchina.universiablogs.net, www.shanghaixintiandi.com






and thankfully shikumen style is coming back:

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www.wurlington-bros.com, http://shanghai.cultural-china.com
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Also the city now has 4 or 5 designated Old Towns.

The Old City that was the original pre-colonial centre:


http://site.silkroadcollection.com, www.awaygowe.com


The longtang/ shikumen/ villa areas of the French Concession



http://cache.graphicslib.viator.com





http://china4you.us, www.beyondshanghai.com



Zhujiajiao, a watertown

[img]http://ak8.picdn.net/************/videos/3709754/preview/stock-footage-shanghai-december-zhujiajiao-traditional-wooden-boat-sailing-in-the-river-zhujiajiao-located.jpg[/img]

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Qibao, another swallowed up satellite


www.davidlarsonis.me, www.seeraa.com, www.travelchinanow.com

www.bamboocompass.com


and of course the Bund area


http://blog.forbestravelguide.com, www.tour-beijing.com/blog


A sixth may or may not come about with the restoration of the former Jewish district of Hongkou, which is being both restored and bulldozed
simultaneously


www.nileguide.com

www.timeoutshanghai.com, www.archilovers.com



However - what pisses me off much more about the city (and across China) are the aircon units.

When finished, blocks of apartments look fine, positively sparkling with clean lines, great views, gardens at the bottom and mod cons.
Whether working class, middle class or upper class it's undetectable in the socialist tradition (not like Hong Kong):


www.thehansontwosome.com, www.boredpanda.com/blog


...that is until a year or two later and dotted everywhere will be aircon units, a marker of the lower and lower middle classes who don't
have them inbuilt. And for the middle classes - satellite dishes. Grrrr..


www.boredpanda.com/blog


utterly wrecked. YUCK:


www.colourbox.com


The introduction of boxing them up to disguise them doesn't help much :


http://shanghaiscrap.com


Meanwhile the upper middle classes have no such issue:



www.reutersmedia.net, www.echinacities.com


This is also a growing problem in NYC and other highrise areas with stifling summers:



www.airconco.com, www.ortablu.org


You dont see that so much in the centre thankfully as it's all skyscrapers and shopping, and fewer residential



www.colourbox.com

and the residential ones are often upper class or mixed

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Old January 12th, 2015, 03:54 AM   #6677
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Old January 12th, 2015, 09:52 AM   #6678
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New York City Manhattan midtown panorama at dusk with skyscrapers illuminated over hudson by DigiDreamGrafix.com, on Flickr

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