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Old March 2nd, 2015, 04:20 AM   #7121
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Shanghai has disparate areas (due to all the old buildings and planning laws) between the highrises, aswell as areas that are packed wall to wall:
Yes, that photo depicts exactly what I mean. Highrises in Manhattan, Chicago, and some other cities are packed much tighter together.
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Old March 2nd, 2015, 09:03 AM   #7128
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I feel NYC is built to a more human scale than Shanghai. One reason I prefer NYC over Shanghai is because outside of the business districts you don't have so many highrises looming over head. Some people prefer Asia's 'skyscraper seas' when it comes to skylines. It might just be the American bias in me, but i don't. Chicago is probably the most massive skyline which I appreciate. Skylines like Shanghai (Puxi and beyond), Shenzhen, Bangkok, and to a lesser extent Guangzhou are just monsters.
Actually Shanghai has hundreds of thousands of low buildings too; it pretty much is the world's most highrise city grafted over a blanket of the world's biggest 'Old City'. The place is carpetted with courtyard siheyuan buildings, many in a state of disrepair and thousands lost and endangered by the construction.

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Yes, it has loads, but they're obviously threatened due to the neverending boom. Most of the stuff we see on this forum is about the new Pudong side of the river, but few of us see the
Puxi side, which is pretty much the world's largest amount of highrises dotted over the world's largest collection of 85+ year old buildings, which was purposely kept in aspic by the Communists -
Shanghai is prone to political rebellion; it's where the dangerous extremes of capitalism, fascism and communism was born/ played out.


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They're mostly made up of the shikumen housing on longtang lanes, a proto British-Chinese style, similar to the terraces (rowhomes) of northern Britain. Amazingly most
were self-restored after the war by the resilient residents (over 300,000 died in what was known as 'Asia's Stalingrad'). These buildings range from Victorian to Edwardian
to art deco styles, from tenement blocks to detached villas. They have English rowhome footprints but also with traditional Chinese courtyards inside, and alleys outside.
Roof tiles are British, roof eaves (curves) Chinese.


http://chinaexpat.com, www.shanghaihighlights.com

http://www.china.org.cn/travel/trave...t_16431002.htm, www.culinarybackstreets.com

http://magazine.fourseasons.com/trav...ai-attractions, http://feihelish.travellerspoint.com/11/

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Many are crumbling and regarded as slums


www.theworldofchinese.com, www.bochic.com

http://designhistorylab.com


but some are being restored - the ultra commercial Xintiandi district a victim of it's own success (think Gap and Starbucks)

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and Tianzifang, an utter maze of boho alleyways full of cafes, independent shops and bars:


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https://yasminsalfati.files.wordpress.com, www.lintel-shanghai.com


Beneath the highrises the sea of russet coloured roofs makes the city appear brown from above


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Many have been lost to the wrecking ball - note the art deco being demolished for nouveau deco development:


http://shanghaistreetstories.com



but thankfully new builds are starting to realise the desirability in the market for the former style:

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Old March 2nd, 2015, 09:06 AM   #7129
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Also Shanghai has no less than 5-6 Old City's.

The Old City was the Chinese city still extant when the British took over (back in Middle Ages SH reached 300,000; although a nondescript Chinese town it would have been the 3rd largest city in Europe). Today it's pretty much an open air mall to tourists:


www.layoverguide.com

http://www.viator.com/Shanghai-attra...otos/d325-a180

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though still has functioning more authentic areas still:


http://travelblog.viator.com, http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slide...y-shanghai.jpg


Then there's Zhujiajiao, a swallowed up former water town


www.gracechinatours.com, www.itourbeijing.com

chinahighlights.com, http://echinatravel.com/blog


And Qibao, as above. Both towns are overrun with tourists by day


www.chinatouronline.com, www.kankanblog.com
[img]http://ak4.picdn.net/************/videos/6616877/preview/stock-footage-shanghai-people-s-republic-of-china-june-people-walking-in-qibao-market-district.jpg[/img]
www.airasia.com


The French Concession - this is where the restored areas of Xintiandi and Tianzifang listed before can be found


www.ft.com, http://jennykrasner.com


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www.lintel-shanghai.com, www.urbanphoto.net/blog, www.chinaodysseytours.com


The Bund area - the waterfront and streets behind leading to Nanjing Road, the main shopping district


www.topchinatravel.com, www.chinatourguide.com

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And lastly Hongkou, the former Jewish district that's now a large area of unrestored former industry taken over by artists - and simultaneously being demolished and restored at the same time

decay, demolition & restoration


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www.informatik.uni-bremen.de


www.szetsungleong.com, www.urbanghostsmedia.com

www.datelineshanghai.com, Alan Chang, https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanchan/6964324899/


www.archilovers.com/projects, www.timeoutshanghai.com
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In short if you look again at this pic, it's actually showing more lowrise, human scaled areas than highrises:


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I feel NYC is built to a more human scale than Shanghai. One reason I prefer NYC over Shanghai is because outside of the business districts you don't have so many highrises looming over head. Some people prefer Asia's 'skyscraper seas' when it comes to skylines. It might just be the American bias in me, but i don't. Chicago is probably the most massive skyline which I appreciate. Skylines like Shanghai (Puxi and beyond), Shenzhen, Bangkok, and to a lesser extent Guangzhou are just monsters.
Great post. I totally agree with what you said here. We all like skyscrapers but there comes a point where too much is not a good thing... particularly when it sacrifices the livability of a city. Which is often the case when skyscrapers and mass high/low rises are not located in a centralized area/district/core. One of the things I love most about Chicago is how we have a dense downtown area but as you move away from the core you get a great mix of lofts, factory conversions, low rises, townhomes, greystones, brownstones and homes sprinkled here and there. I experienced the same thing when I visited NY. That mix helps give cities their character. It is also one of the main things that makes these cities fun places to live in.

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Actually Shanghai has hundreds of thousands of low buildings too;
We know that, but they don't form part of the skyline. You've now flooded a skyline thread with photos of low rise street scenes. This isn't a discussion about density but dense skylines as someone suggested that Shanghai has the 'densest skyline'. Sky-line: the line buildings form with the sky. This graphic below might help:



A 3 floor building isn't part of a skyline, is it?

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In short if you look again at this pic, it's actually showing more lowrise, human scaled areas than highrises:
That's precisely what I've been trying to convey to you. Manhattan and cities like Chicago have a denser skyline. Shanghai's is more weighted towards low rise. Shanghai's skyscrapers aren't packed tightly together like some other cities.
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^erm, see the post I originally quoted. It was about the human scale I was referring to that he mentioned, not density as on the previous page.

Are you getting your threads mixed up? This one was trending at the same time:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...663596&page=19
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^erm, see the post I originally quoted. It was about the human scale I was referring to that he mentioned, not density as on the previous page.

Are you getting your threads mixed up? This one was trending at the same time:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...663596&page=19
No, I know what thread I'm in. I do see that you were responding to Hudson's post regarding human scale, but perhaps guys should take that to a non-skyline thread. You've flooded a skyline thread with non-skyline photos. 2-3 photos would have sufficed to make your point. Zero low rise photos would have been even better.
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