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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:01 AM   #11901
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You can see the Sinarmas tower the one at the river bank that black in color is 320+m
and alsi the one that has triangular tip too is a supertall... but they both look tiny in Shanghai
Tomorrow square is not a supertall, it's 934' or about 285 meters.

Sinar mas is the fourth tallest building in the city, if it were right next to the trio it would look small but on it's own I disagree.

In the second pic maybe a little because yea, Shanghai is gigantic. But from many angles even 432 park avenue doesn't look that impressive in NYC when compared to the whole skyline so I don't really see your point, most megacities will make 3-400 meter buildings not stand out that much.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:10 AM   #11902
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Tomorrow square is not a supertall, it's 934' or about 285 meters.
I think QalzimCity was referring to the Jin Mao Tower, which does indeed look tiny next the the Shanghai World Financial Center and the Shanghai Tower.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:31 AM   #11903
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Yeah,try to imaging that put ESB(380m without antenna)near by Jinmao Tower(421m),then back to NYC,see how ESB much taller than others. ESB is giant in NYC,but Jinmao is tiny in Pudong,but compare with Dubai,to be honest,these are nothing.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 07:28 AM   #11904
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Yeah,try to imaging that put ESB(380m without antenna)near by Jinmao Tower(421m),then back to NYC,see how ESB much taller than others. ESB is giant in NYC,but Jinmao is tiny in Pudong,but compare with Dubai,to be honest,these are nothing.
The ESB is just taller than its surroundings, if Jin Mao (only 421m with a spire) were on its own it would look like a giant too. If ESB were next to 1WTC, 432, Central Park Tower tower etc. it would not look like such a giant. I don't see what this has to do with NY's skyline as a whole. The only thing skyline wise that's more impressive to me about Shanghai than NYC is the Shanghai Tower, but once the current supertall boom in NY finishes I don't think Shanghai will have an edge just because of one megatall.

Both cities are insanely impressive but Shanghai lacks a lot in the 2-300 meter range which NY doesn't, and also has far more U/C. NY lacks a 600+ meter building but I think the new developments next to Central Park are tall enough to keep it in the number one spot.




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Old March 7th, 2017, 08:09 AM   #11905
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The ESB is just taller than its surroundings, if Jin Mao (only 421m with a spire) were on its own it would look like a giant too. If ESB were next to 1WTC, 432, Central Park Tower tower etc. it would not look like such a giant.
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Shanghai and NYC are both lacks of 300+,shanghai only have 2,NYC is 3.
as for 200+, shanghai is 54,NYC is 64 by 2016.So,not very much gap actually,in consideration of shanghai have one megatall and a TV Tower which is 468m.
but ture,NYC is building many new supertalls,however shanghai is slowing down in recent years.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 09:18 AM   #11906
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The most strange truth is about Shenzhen,which have 71 buildings taller than 200+,11 supertalls,2 buildings 400+,and 1 megatall,far more strong than shanghai and also surpassed NYC,but the skyline,really not better than both cities.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 09:44 AM   #11907
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Shenzhen is really underrated in my opinion. I think it lacks a focal point though, but the number of supertalls it has is shockingly impressive. In comparison, Chongqing with a smaller skyline, has a more pleasing cluster.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 10:01 AM   #11908
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Shenzhens skyline looks pretty random and generic. It has some nice towers, but it lacks identity.

( height is not everything )
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Old March 7th, 2017, 12:21 PM   #11909
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sometime a debate like this one really makes one realizes that if all the top20 best skylines were located next to each others in forming a mega conurbation, our eyes may only focus on the big guys,

-NY,Shanghai,Dubai coz theyre the most striking ones
-Hongkong, many thanks too its fantastic terrains
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-Chicago,Guangzhou coz having a nice tall cluster, and symmetrical factors dive in
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-The other heavyweight cities. Yes, including the Shenzhen (awesome height but too random)
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-Sydney due to the magical combo of the bridge and that opera house
-Any other cities can only be the suburbs...
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Old March 7th, 2017, 01:18 PM   #11910
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Dubai's Sheikh Zayed Road skyline


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Old March 7th, 2017, 03:36 PM   #11911
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This, to me, is the true list of the World's Tallest Buildings.

Height to pinnacle -- highest point




By Ali Zifan - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/inde...curid=38160324


When you are in Chicago you see, feel and notice the antennas that are on top of the Willis Tower and Hancock Center. In fact, it can be argued that those antennas "make" the buildings -- meaning they would lose their identities if you take the antennas off of those buildings.

The antennas on Willis and Hancock should be counted towards their actual height.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 03:48 PM   #11912
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In that diagram, both 1WTC and Willis towers roof are higher then they actually are. 1WTCs spire is at least 20m too high, and the spires on the Willis tower are around 50m too high up in the air.

Hancocks roof is also set 20m too high, while its antenas reach the right height.

The Abraj tower is also slightly off.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #11913
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In that diagram, both 1WTC and Willis towers roof are higher then they actually are. 1WTCs spire is at least 20m too high, and the spires on the Willis tower are around 50m too high up in the air.

Hancocks roof is also set 20m too high, while its antenas reach the right height.

The Abraj tower is also slightly off.

What is your source?


Here is my source..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings


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Old March 7th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #11914
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This, to me, is the true list of the World's Tallest Buildings.

Height to pinnacle -- highest point




By Ali Zifan - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/inde...curid=38160324


When you are in Chicago you see, feel and notice the antennas that are on top of the Willis Tower and Hancock Center. In fact, it can be argued that those antennas "make" the buildings -- meaning they would lose their identities if you take the antennas off of those buildings.

The antennas on Willis and Hancock should be counted towards their actual height.

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Gosh,suddenly i realised all chinese megatalls have no antenna(even some supertalls),only Pingan have a spire originally,but at last government cancelled it,what the f… by the way,you lost guangzhou Chow Tai Fook tower(539m) on the list.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 05:50 PM   #11915
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:01 PM   #11916
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Old March 7th, 2017, 06:03 PM   #11917
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Just see all of these chinese megatalls and some 500+ supertalls have no antenna.

cant believe that.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 07:04 PM   #11918
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Old March 7th, 2017, 08:47 PM   #11919
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Just see all of these chinese megatalls and some 500+ supertalls have no antenna.

cant believe that.
An impressive list of Chinese megatalls indeed Its gonna be difficult for anyone to keep pace with China in the years to come.

The thing about the Chicago towers is that they were built with the antennas from the very beginning. They are synonymous with the structure and helps give Chicago one of the most easily recognizable silhouettes in the world.

Also, the human eye automatically goes to the highest point of the structure -- the human eye does not distinguish the difference between a spire and an antenna.

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Old March 7th, 2017, 08:49 PM   #11920
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