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View Poll Results: left, center or right aligned?
Left aligned 12 28.57%
Center aligned 10 23.81%
Right aligned 0 0%
mixed (overhead center, exit left aligned) 19 45.24%
i don't look at the signage anyway 1 2.38%
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Old May 21st, 2007, 03:50 AM   #321
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All this tidyness and clearness of signs is probably one of the reasons why I like driving on German autobahns.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 03:53 AM   #322
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Why? What's wrong with our signs? And why do you have completely different information on the two signs?
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Old May 21st, 2007, 03:55 AM   #323
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^ Well, I'd preserve the green color and road-number shields, but US signs are just a bit too messy and unclear.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 03:59 AM   #324
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The roads themselves are messy and unclear. It's only natural that the signs themselves would be the same way.


Some cities (Nashville, TN is a perfect example) are very confusing when it comes to the design and routing of the highways / interstates. It's not the people who design the signs' fault - it's the fault of the people who designed the roads themselves!
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Old May 21st, 2007, 04:09 AM   #325
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@Insomniac:

Do you mean why in the original it says Goethals and Verrazano Bridge and in the editing it says Staten Islands and Kings?



This is because in Germany we usually don't have bridges or tunnels as destinations, only cities, districts and places. (personal experience) and first time i was on the turnpike (not driving for myself / without looking a map / we went to bergenfield to visit relatives) i did not know that the verranzano-narrows-bridge refers to new york.

is the american highway/street sign font downloadable somewhere? so i could do ot the other way round (your signs on our highways )
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Old May 21st, 2007, 05:23 AM   #326
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Those German signs are hideous.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 07:33 AM   #327
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Don't forget that the New Jersey Turnpike stubburnly does signs in their own way, a way that is very unlike those of the rest of the USA, which generally follows the rules in the Federal Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices ('MUTCD'). I don't like the NJTP's signs at all, very messy and unclear.

The USA Federal MUTCD is available for free download from the USA Department of Transportation, just Google for it.

That said, there are times when I wish that the USA used blue instead of green in its normal freeway signage and there are a handful of German conventions that I want the USA to adopt, but overall both have their place and both are OK in their own way.

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Old May 21st, 2007, 07:46 AM   #328
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@Insomniac:

Do you mean why in the original it says Goethals and Verrazano Bridge and in the editing it says Staten Islands and Kings?



This is because in Germany we usually don't have bridges or tunnels as destinations, only cities, districts and places. (personal experience) and first time i was on the turnpike (not driving for myself / without looking a map / we went to bergenfield to visit relatives) i did not know that the verranzano-narrows-bridge refers to new york.

is the american highway/street sign font downloadable somewhere? so i could do ot the other way round (your signs on our highways )
I think that the highway guys' assumption is that most people on those roads know that those various crossings lead to NYC and that they are most likely looking for a specific crossing to get to a certain place in the city. NYC is a VERY VAST place and the Goethal's/Verrazano Narrows bridge route goes to a completely different place in the city than does, for example, the Holland Tunnel or the George Washington Bridge. These are very familiar landmarks to USAians, especially those from the northeast, and they are prominent on all maps.

BTW, even though it is technically 'Kings County', EVERYONE, even the Post Office, calls it 'Brooklyn'.

As for the fonts, the actual fonts are prohibitively expensive but there are some very close approximations that are available as freeware. Do a Google search for 'FHWA fonts' and see what you can find.

Good luck!

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Old May 21st, 2007, 07:49 AM   #329
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Wow, NJ signs are indeed very unclear. Those German substitutes don't look too attractive either. Real German signs look much cleaner and nicer.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 11:33 AM   #330
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ok here we have brooklyn on the sign


@Alex:
i guess, the east windsor one could look like this in the rest of germany



@mgk920: thanks for your information, i've found it

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Old May 21st, 2007, 12:43 PM   #331
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Looks great. Much more organized than the messy American signage.

Especially ridiculous control cities like Hancock (MD) instead of Pittsburgh on the I-70 westward.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 04:01 PM   #332
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@ Patrick, why don't you do it just with the German STYLE? What I wanna say is to preserve the green color, the shields and the US font, just change those things like "THRU TRAFFIC" and such. Then we'll actually see the difference!
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Old May 21st, 2007, 04:07 PM   #333
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Its about time that Germany invades the US.
At least you`ll have nice signes then....and dont forget the Euro...
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Old May 21st, 2007, 08:02 PM   #334
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the other way round?


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@Verso: Do you mean like this?

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Old May 21st, 2007, 08:13 PM   #335
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^ No, keep the destinations you wrote before, better said throw out those bridges, hehe.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 08:34 PM   #336
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ok, here we go

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Old May 21st, 2007, 08:54 PM   #337
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^ It looks clearer than it actually is in the US, but you were right about putting everything German, that was just more clear than this. I'd only preserve the Interstates shield, it's unique. The green color is ok, but the fonts are somehow just too "soft"; we need those "harsh" German ones, hehe.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 09:01 PM   #338
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Looks so frikkin sweet. Deutsche Straßenzeichen über alles.
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^ No, keep the destinations you wrote before, better said throw out those bridges, hehe.
Those bridges are important focal destinations in the New York area.
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Old May 21st, 2007, 10:08 PM   #340
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^ I believe so, but still, I don't think you'd see it that way in Germany or elsewhere in Europe.
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