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Old December 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM   #241
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Where exactly in Antwerp is this swing bridge? (left side of picture)
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Old December 11th, 2012, 08:37 AM   #242
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Where exactly in Antwerp is this swing bridge? (left side of picture)
That's the Nassaubrug, between Bonapartedok and Willemdok. The building site is for the MAS (Museum aan de Stroom) which is quite worth a visit if you're ever in Antwerpen.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 05:35 PM   #243
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:06 AM   #244
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Thanks!! A must see museum! You guys are great!
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #245
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I have visited the MAS last summer. It is a really great building with exceptional views. I found the museum not very interesting though. Quite traditional, dark, not a great collection. But the MAS itself is beautiful.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 02:31 AM   #246
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I have visited the MAS last summer. It is a really great building with exceptional views. I found the museum not very interesting though. Quite traditional, dark, not a great collection. But the MAS itself is beautiful.
I found it a bit interesting, but I didn't pay so didn't feel it owed me anything. Too many pieces with no context. The view on the top was nice though.
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Old January 15th, 2013, 04:22 AM   #247
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Does anyone remember an unusual signal at the platform at Liege-Guillemins? It was a signal telling the lead engineer that the pusher (needed to get up the hill headed towards Brussels) was coupled up and ready.

Not the daisy (Marguerite), but a red neon letters sign.
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Old January 16th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #248
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Does anyone remember an unusual signal at the platform at Liege-Guillemins? It was a signal telling the lead engineer that the pusher (needed to get up the hill headed towards Brussels) was coupled up and ready.

Not the daisy (Marguerite), but a red neon letters sign.
There is a signal with 3 letters (ALL) which is lit while the pusher engine is against the train (this pusher is NOT coupled)
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Old January 17th, 2013, 12:34 AM   #249
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Old January 17th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #250
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That was the situation in the old Guillemins configuration.

Nowadays, there are only 3 tracks in the station where the departure can be done with this light system.

This system is a help for us as we're starting the train BUT a departure with a pusher engine behind can also be done on the other tracks even if the light system is not available.

But I won't make you the full sum up of the SNCB driver's rules regarding "les plans inclinés", that'll be damn long
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Old January 17th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #251
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Proper term for a pusher is banker.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #252
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Proper term for a pusher is banker.
In the US the proper term for a banker is a pusher, or helper. Railway terms on both sides of the pond make for some interesting discussions...
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:42 AM   #253
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Starting from december, M6 double decker stock will be running on the IC A (Oostende - Eupen) over HSL 2 along with the current stock (I11 coaches). The rakes will be hauled by T18 locomotives, but will run without a cab car.

For the past couple of months, SNCB has been running nightly test runs on HSL 2 to determine how the coaches will handle 200 kph. The tests were successful for the regular coaches, but the cab cars were considered to be inappropriate as there were too much vibrations.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 10:28 AM   #254
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Starting from december, M6 double decker stock will be running on the IC A (Oostende - Eupen) over HSL 2 along with the current stock (I11 coaches). The rakes will be hauled by T18 locomotives, but will run without a cab car.

For the past couple of months, SNCB has been running nightly test runs on HSL 2 to determine how the coaches will handle 200 kph. The tests were successful for the regular coaches, but the cab cars were considered to be inappropriate as there were too much vibrations.
This means that NMBS can free some I11 stock. Could these be used for Brussel - Amsterdam services over the HSL?
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 10:31 AM   #255
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That will depend on how much rakes will be replaced with M6. My guess is that about 7 or 8 rakes will be required for Amsterdam - Brussels services, given that SNCB is willing to do so.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 12:17 PM   #256
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Latest plans are to re-introduce the V250 in April 2014. Till December we're stuck with the current situation - where unsurprisingly - competition has announced to offer a far better product.

From December 16 daily trains are again planned for Amsterdam - Brussels. In the meantime competition might establish a TOC and find a ROSCO to supply them with 140 km/h stock.

The former ICK coaches that NSFS sold to Hector Rail last moth can provide a solution for the new TOC. I that case the competition is on, which can only result in a better product for the customer.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 01:08 PM   #257
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Latest plans are to re-introduce the V250 in April 2014.
Earlier plans were to have them running in 2007 and now 6 years later they still don't work properly. So why am I not that confident that it will next year?
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 01:44 PM   #258
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Cars I11 have a maximum speed of 200km/h. It's depend of trains path because a slow path increase time between two. I think that's not a problem between Antwerp and Rotterdam because traffic is low. But on Rotterdam-Amsterdam route, it's more crowded. But there exist also the "national" Fyra between Breda and Amsterdam-CS...Well it's a debat to netherland's threat !
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Old June 6th, 2013, 12:36 PM   #259
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From International Railway Journal Monday, June 03, 2013

SNCB cancels order for AnsaldoBreda V250 trains (by Quintus Vosman)

THE saga surrounding Fyra cross-border services between the Netherlands and Belgium took another twist on May 31, when Belgian National Railways (SNCB) announced it had cancelled its order for V250 high-speed trains with AnsaldoBreda.

In a statement, SNCB said: "The design of the V250 train has fundamental shortcomings with potentially serious effects with regards to both safety and reliability. Also the quality management of the construction of the train is inadequate. Under these circumstances, SNCB can only respond by cancelling its order for the V250 sets."

The trains were originally due to be delivered in 2007, and eventually entered commercial service between Amsterdam and Brussels on December 9 2012. However just a few weeks later on January 17 the trains were withdrawn after it had been discovered that accumulations of snow had dislodged underfloor components, causing them to fall onto the track. At this point both SNCB and Netherlands Railways (NS) gave AnsaldoBreda three months to resolve the technical problems and bring the trains up to the quality standards specified in the contract. SNCB warned AnsaldoBreda that if it did not meet this deadline it would cancel the contract entirely.

Last week SNCB CEO Mr Marc Descheemaeker presented a long list of problems with the V250s, including safety-related issues such as overheating battery packs, loose roof-mounted components, and corrosion on wheelsets and bogies. SNCB says it is no longer confident that the problems it has identified will be resolved, or that the trains will meet the required standards.

SNCB and NS have jointly commissioned Mott MacDonald to carry out a report into the commissioning of the V250 fleet. This report suggests that solving fundamental problems will require considerable additional investment and will could take between 17 months and two years to rectify.

SNCB has also commissioned another consultancy, Concept Risk, France, to scrutinise the technical liability of the V250. Concept Risk expressed serious doubts about the design and construction of the train, including maintenance costs and the performance of the braking system.

Furthermore, SNCB is concerned about the financial position of AnsaldoBreda's parent company Finmeccanica, which it argues could have long-term implications for the supply of spare parts for the V250 fleet.

SNCB has therefore decided to cancel its order for three trains and revoke the bank guarantees on the preliminary payments, which are worth €37m. It is also preparing a legal claim for damages from AnsaldoBreda.

The manufacturer has responded by saying it does not agree with SNCB's decision or the conclusions of the research. The company says it is determined to retain the contract, together with the much larger contract for 16 trains with NS, which has yet to make a formal decision on how to proceed. This means it is very likely that AnsaldoBreda and SNCB will meet in court in the near future.

The Dutch V250s were ordered by NS Financial Services, the Dublin-based leasing subsidiary of NS.

The cancelation of the V250 order has major implications for the High-Speed Alliance, the joint venture between NS (90%) and KLM (10%) which holds the contract to operate Fyra services jointly with SNCB.

A decision is expected to be made on the future of the Dutch V250 order by June 20.

Meanwhile a solution still has to be found for the operation of cross-border services between Amsterdam and Brussels. Since March a two-hourly service has operated between The Hague and Brussels, using Bombardier Traxx multi-system locomotives leased by SNCB and Dutch ICRm coaching stock. These trains operate on the conventional network, crossing the border at Roosendaal.

Following the cancellation of the V250 order, SNCB will reopen discussions with NS on the future of train services between Belgium and the Netherlands. The aim is to reinstate an hourly service, but the first step will be to increase the frequency to 10 trains per direction per day from September, followed by further increase in frequency in December. As a shareholder in Thalys, SNCB will urge stepping up Amsterdam – Brussels – Paris high-speed services, and likewise, as a shareholder in Eurostar it will make the case for extending London – Brussels trains to Amsterdam, although this is unlikely to happen before 2016. In addition, SNCB has revived plans for conventional cross-border services from Antwerp to Eindhoven.

(by Quintus Vosman) International Railway Journal
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Old June 6th, 2013, 07:32 PM   #260
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belgians railways are bad!
No spectacular things except Liege station
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