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Old June 8th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #281
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:Banana: The front of the trains looks badass I think, especially with that metal protector V shape in front. Is that for when the track are to deep in the snow?

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Old June 8th, 2013, 06:04 PM   #282
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Coupled to and older train:



This hurts to watch:

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Old June 8th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #283
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Trains near Ghent:

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Old June 10th, 2013, 10:12 AM   #284
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Coupled to and older train:


Coupled ? Certainly not ! The other train in this picture is a DMU (class 41)
and it goes to Couvin (picture taken in station Charleroi Sud), on a line
that is not electrified.

In fact it is common, in Belgium, given the density of traffic, to have two
trains departing from the same track. What you see here is most probably
this class 41 DMU about to leave for Couvin, and then the Desiro EMU
that will follow to Erquelinnes shortly afterwards.

I think those two rolling stock classes have the same kind of coupler (GF+)
and at the same height, but there is no electric wiring compatibility between
the two so it could only be used for shunting or rescue moves with one of
the units dead.

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Old June 10th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #285
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:Banana: The front of the trains looks badass I think, especially with that metal protector V shape in front. Is that for when the track are to deep in the snow?
Snow, but also rocks, cars, trucks, people, cows, sheep, etc. Basically, they're there to protect the equipment underneath the train.

I like the Desiro, but the comfort level isn't acceptable if you need to sit for more than 30 minutes in my opinion. Luckily, they're mainly used for local trains, so that shouldn't pose a problem.


As for the whole "bragging" thing: there are several things the Belgian Railways can show off with, but there are also several things that have been problematic for years (like tagging, delays and the aforementioned Brussels stations). Belgians generally aren't very proud people, so it'll be quite hard to form a correct picture of the country based on what you read on the internet if you just look at us Belgians
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Old June 10th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #286
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I have a question: do they have plans to improve, rebuild or even demolish station Buda?
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Old June 10th, 2013, 05:46 PM   #287
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Heh, getting to know such things from the NMBS or Infrabel is practically impossible. They depend a lot on political decisions and as you can imagine: those are very fickle.
Station Buda has lost a lot of commuters when the Renault factory right next to it got closed down. The companies that now use the buildings don't have as many personnel as before, so its usage declined a lot. I have no numbers, but I think it doesn't deserve to exist any more nowadays.

There was also word about closing it and building a new one some hundred metres further for the "UPlace" supermall project that is planned (if it gets all its approvals), but those are just rumours as far as I'm aware.
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Old June 10th, 2013, 07:45 PM   #288
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Is the line with the new "fancy" cantanary a highspeed track (or upgraded, like german AusBauStrecke?)?
Could someone clarify?
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Old June 10th, 2013, 08:22 PM   #289
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Is the line with the new "fancy" cantanary a highspeed track (or upgraded, like german AusBauStrecke?)?
Could someone clarify?
No, it is "just" a viaduct that allows the railway lines to cross without the need for any switches. This allowed for a speed improvement from 60 km/h to 160 km/h, though this is purely theoretical considering all trains halt at Ghent.

It is true however that the catenary on the viaduct is of a better type than the one used for the tracks below. The one on the viaduct is of type "R3", which allows for speeds up to (and possibly above) 220 km/h. The type used on the lower tracks allows up to 160 km/h at most. Note however that in this case, the speed limit is still fixed at 160 km/h, most likely due to the tracks.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #290
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Is the line with the new "fancy" cantanary a highspeed track (or upgraded, like german AusBauStrecke?)?
Could someone clarify?
ABS ? You could consider it like that, yes. We are there at the north exit
of Ghent in the direction of Brugge. This line is being widened from 2 to 4
tracks and the two center tracks will allow 200 km/h running. But this ultimate
goal is still many years away. The bridge is there to ease the traffic in the station
north track complex, which without this bridge would be saturated.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #291
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Some of the oldest stock still rolling: Don't know what series these are. Anyone knows?

This train is actually very comfortable with leather seats and all that...
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Old June 11th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #292
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That's an MS86, which is by far not the oldest rolling stock we've got They were introduced between 1986 and 1991, so they're getting old, but they're not the oldest we've got. The oldest trains still in use (though they're being replaced by the Desiro trains) are the so-called classic trains. They've been built in a lot of series and it's a bit unclear which ones still run, but the oldest one I could find that is still running dates back to 1961 (though it was just a quick search I did).

Some other trains that you will most certainly recognise that are older than the MS86: MS75 and MS80.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #293
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Tanks for the infoè Id didn't know those models where older!

Yes I know they are being retired as we speak, that's why I didn't mention them

Adieu automotrice Classiques!

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MS86 is currently being refurbished, aren't they?
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I'm not certain whether they're really being refurbished, all I know for certain is that they are receiving a new paint job.

Scrap that, they are indeed undergoing a refurbishment. The whole interior is being replaced and the exterior gets a new paint job.
Pictures of the interior can be found here: http://www.hgbtf.net/viewtopic.php?p=176628#p176628
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I like the new colorscheme, looks a lot better than the old brown one.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 11:56 AM   #297
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I like the new colorscheme, looks a lot better than the old brown one.
I've got nothing against the grey and dark blue combination, I like that. But the yellow front doesn't fit in, in my opinion. The previous livery looked nice with the yellow bar around the lights and the smaller bars under it. I'm not sure how to explain it, but I liked that.
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The Yellow makes it look...

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The Yellow makes it look...

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Haha, indeed! The resemblance is stunning
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