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Old August 30th, 2013, 12:02 PM   #381
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The newly-constructed twin tunnels under the Scheldt River and Kanaaldok are about six kilometres long, which makes them the longest rail tunnels in Belgium.
The Liefkenshoek is linked to the Beveren tunnel, so the underground part is about 8 km long.

http://www.railway-technology.com/pr...oek-rail-link/

The Liefkenshoek part alone is shorter than the Soumagne tunnel (6.5 km long).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soumagne_Tunnel
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Old September 24th, 2013, 05:48 PM   #382
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I've just found out that SNCB subsidiary InterFerryBoats is shutting down the relatively youthful Antwerp Main Hub Intermodal Terminal.

Please see Nieuwsblad Transport.

Apparently it is the elimination of state financial support which is causing the closure. It's a shame, given the size and age of the terminal, but at the end of the day I guess it's been too expensive to run, given the traffic volume available.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 02:08 AM   #383
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Today was the last day of the red-coloured Classical EMU's of NMBS/SNCB. EMU 204 was the last one in service. They will be wrecked.

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NMBS 204 by Durk Houtsma., on Flickr

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Klaar voor de sloop in Stockem by Durk Houtsma., on Flickr
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Old November 9th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #384
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Yes, and right after that, the Electric locomotives series 20 will be the next
ones to go. Only 3 of them remain in service, they should be stopped for the
next schedule change in December. They were the world most powerful 3kV
DC locomotives, and the first ones to use a chopper.

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Old December 28th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #385
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A tender has been opened at the belgian railways for the construction of 1000
to 1200 new double deck carriages, organized in EMUs of 4 or 6 cars.
Architecture should be in the form of one power carriage + 3 or 5 trailers,
somewhat similar to the mDDM + double deck carriages in the Netherlands.
3 kV= + 25 kV~, 145.000 seats. 200 km/h. Estimated value 3 G€...

https://enot.publicprocurement.be/en...oticeId=164875
http://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOT...3:TEXT:FR:HTML
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Old December 28th, 2013, 09:13 PM   #386
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Interesting tender.

I can't think of any double deck EMUs in this specific configuration that are capable of doing 200 km/h. Especially with the 6 car sets the motorcar will have to be very powerful to reach such a speed with a normal acceleration rate. I very much doubt that this will be possible with just 1 powered double deck end car. But I will let the industry surprise me, we'll see how this will turn out.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #387
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Maybe some non-major player might come up with a solution.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #388
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Interesting tender.

I can't think of any double deck EMUs in this specific configuration that are capable of doing 200 km/h. Especially with the 6 car sets the motorcar will have to be very powerful to reach such a speed with a normal acceleration rate. I very much doubt that this will be possible with just 1 powered double deck end car. But I will let the industry surprise me, we'll see how this will turn out.
If class 13 pulls 6 double decker carrages at 200km/h, certainly a newly build EMU can do so?

Class 13 doing nearly 200km/h on the line between Liège and Leuven at 2:42 the camera zooms in on the speed. Normally this train is a double deck train.

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Maybe some non-major player might come up with a solution.
You can for example think about a solution similar to the mDDM sets that
are used in the Netherlands. BBB configuration, in order to increase adherence
and limit weight under 20 t/axle, and lower floor reserved to traction
equipment, so that enough traction power can be fitted. SNCB won't object to
that, provided that the requirement of 4,3 passengers per meter of train is
reached in a 6 car configuration...

Also, the requirement is to be able to make 4 cars or 6 cars configurations.
May be the 200 km/h will be reached with 4 cars configs only.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 11:08 PM   #390
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If class 13 pulls 6 double decker carrages at 200km/h, certainly a newly build EMU can do so?
Careful... The M6 rakes going 200 km/h on L2 are made of 10 coaches with
one HLE 18 at each end. So that's 5 cars for each loc, not 6. And the
maximum speed has already been reduced from 200 to 170 because of
passenger discomfort problems. Looks like the car suspensions allow for too
ample lateral movement, which are badly felt at the upper deck...
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Old December 28th, 2013, 11:15 PM   #391
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Class 13 doing nearly 200km/h on the line between Liège and Leuven at 2:42 the camera zooms in on the speed. Normally this train is a double deck train.
Nope... Class 13 locs never pulled M6 cars on the L2. M6 cars have never been
allowed on the L2 until a few weeks ago, and for the last year, only Class 18
locs have been used for this service. If this is a class 13 (and I believe it is),
the cars behind can only be I11.
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Old December 28th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #392
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OKey so I'm wrong
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Are there any plans to re-open FR-BE railway links at Quevy, Athu, Erquelinnes or Heer-Argimont?
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Old December 29th, 2013, 12:31 AM   #394
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TER Nord-Pas-de-Calais was the train company using the line, NMBS had a deal with them in 2008 but the line had a very low usage and was dismissed. I don't see the NMBS operating any trains there in the future and I don't think SNCF is willing to spend any more money on a low usage line in Belgium...

The line is working however, but only for freight trains...
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Which of those lines are working? I mentioned 4...
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i was talking about Quevy.

Erquelinnes is also used for freight.

Heer-Argimont is overgrown with trees and I don't think will be never used again.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 12:50 PM   #397
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Interesting tender.

I can't think of any double deck EMUs in this specific configuration that are capable of doing 200 km/h. Especially with the 6 car sets the motorcar will have to be very powerful to reach such a speed with a normal acceleration rate. I very much doubt that this will be possible with just 1 powered double deck end car. But I will let the industry surprise me, we'll see how this will turn out.
Would not Stadler's KISS (formerly known as DOSTO) fit the specifics exactly? The version produced for the Westbahn company is capable of 200 kmh. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_Dosto
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Are there any plans to re-open FR-BE railway links at Quevy, Athu, Erquelinnes or Heer-Argimont?
There are certainly no plans for that today.

Quevy and Erquelinnes are both used for freight, but all passenger activities
disappeared, some years ago already for Quevy (that was operated by SNCF)
and one year ago for Erquelinnes. It might come back, but it certainly is not
the priority. However, in the last years, the only service that could practically
be conceived was to the first station after the border, because of absence of
adequate rolling stock. Now that SNCB has acquired plenty of 3/25 EMUs, it
could be possible to re-instate services like Mons-Maubeuge or Charleroi-
Maubeuge, which might be much more successfull than Aulnoye-Quevy or
Charleroi-Jeumont. There are also talks for Mons-Valenciennes through
Quiévrain.

For the two others, there are much less chances. The entire line South of
Dinant is out of service since 1987 and would need a complete re-lay to be
used again. Population in the haute Meuse valley is quite sparse, and would
not justify the costs. There were only 4 trains per day on this line when it
closed, and with very low loadings.

And at Athus, there is no track any more between Athus and the french
network. There is a connection Athus-Aubange (entirely in Belgium),
Athus -Rodange (CFL), Aubange - Rodange, Mont-Saint-Martin (SNCF) - Rodange,
and Aubange - Mont-Saint-Martin ; but no connection Athus - Mont-Saint-Martin.
It used to exist, but was lifted 20 years ago, when the connection Aubange-
Rodange was established : the two would have crossed each other almost at
right angle, a very common track configuration in America but very rare in
Europe...
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The six latest class 20 electric locomotives have been retired from active
service on december 31st evening, after a last day of use on some IC
services between Brussels and Luxemburg. Some pictures of this last
day at http://www.wallorail.be/actu2013/ind...c-2127-et-2108 .
This class of locomotives was quite emblematic for the belgian railways :
among the first large size DC locomotives using thyristor choppers, the most
powerful 3 kV DC loco of its time... Its retirement kind of closes the era of
large CC electric locomotives in western Europe.
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Storm in Belgium.

"Ladies and gentlemen, the train to Bruges will have a delay of 30 minutes"

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