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bizorky · July 5th, 2005, 06:38 AM

I read the Montreal Gazette online. No five billion federal investment in subway lines.

DRTO · July 5th, 2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by partybits

Well your getting around the question. Where exactly does it say that Montreal has recieved this $5Billion. And if they did, when was it, over how long of a period, is it still ongoing?
Sorry, but I find it very surprising that nobody but you heard of this. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Just hoping for some more elaboration

I read this several months ago. It must have either been in the Star, or the Globe.

mckarisma · July 6th, 2005, 03:58 AM

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There are so many projects in Toronto competing for funds right now. If the Feds and the province gave something back to TO (they take $11 billion a year), then this thing could get built overnight. Instead, they each pledged a measly $25 million for one of the most high profile cultural events in Canada. Meanwhile, the Feds gave Winnipeg $200 million to build a human rights centre, and Montreal $5 billion to expand their Metro. It's too bad the only alternative to the Fiberals is the communist NDP, or the fascist conservatives. I say it's time for an Ontario party at the federal level.

I think that the NDP is actually socialist, and there is a difference between communist and socialist parties. One is totalitarian, while the other is democratic, generally.

partybits · July 6th, 2005, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DRTO

I read this several months ago. It must have either been in the Star, or the Globe.

Most likely they meant $5 billion over a incredibly long period of time...and in the past. But technically you can say the Gov't spends $10's of billions on Toronto transit if you go back far enough in time.

In terms of present though, I highly doubt that Montreal is getting any add'l money from the Feds at least or we would all have heard about it.

DRTO · July 6th, 2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by partybits

Most likely they meant $5 billion over a incredibly long period of time...and in the past. But technically you can say the Gov't spends $10's of billions on Toronto transit if you go back far enough in time.

In terms of present though, I highly doubt that Montreal is getting any add'l money from the Feds at least or we would all have heard about it.

Now I see why Torontonians continue to vote Liberal. You people have no clue how much money is drained out of TO by the Feds and poured into Quebec. If you did, I don't think you'd be voting Liberal anymore.

KGB · July 6th, 2005, 02:29 PM

Well, since equalization payments are mandated by the constitution, I really don't think that particular issue matters which party is in power. And besides, nobody would hinge their political philosophy on that one issue anyway.

KGB

DRTO · July 6th, 2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KGB

Well, since equalization payments are mandated by the constitution, I really don't think that particular issue matters which party is in power. And besides, nobody would hinge their political philosophy on that one issue anyway.

KGB

Does equalization explain why Ontario now sends $25 billion annually to the "have nots" while ten years ago it only sent $2 billion? Quebec and Newfoundland's economies have been growing faster than Ontario's for the past few years, and Halifax's unemployment rate is much lower than Toronto's, so why are we sending them more money?

valantino · July 6th, 2005, 04:39 PM

"Quebec and Newfoundland's economies have been growing faster than Ontario's for the past few years, and Halifax's unemployment rate is much lower than Toronto's, so why are we sending them more money?"

Can't compare economies on rate of growth and Halifax is only one city in NOVA SCOTIA ( also, not all unemployed get counted)

DRTO · July 6th, 2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by valantino

"Quebec and Newfoundland's economies have been growing faster than Ontario's for the past few years, and Halifax's unemployment rate is much lower than Toronto's, so why are we sending them more money?"

Can't compare economies on rate of growth and Halifax is only one city in NOVA SCOTIA ( also, not all unemployed get counted)

Are you saying that the reason Halifax's unemployment rate is nearly 2% lower than Toronto's is because they calculate theirs differently? Or are you suggesting there is a higher percentage of people there who have stopped looking for work? Can you back that up with facts?

valantino · July 6th, 2005, 10:15 PM

"Can you back that up with facts?"

LMAO - Do you?

partybits · July 7th, 2005, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DRTO

Now I see why Torontonians continue to vote Liberal. You people have no clue how much money is drained out of TO by the Feds and poured into Quebec. If you did, I don't think you'd be voting Liberal anymore.

What are you talking about? You still have'nt told anyone how you came about this $5billion figure other than "I read it somewhere". Well I read somewhere that Toronto is getting $100Billion spread over 5 days, so it must be true.

Lets put it another way, if you are in fact right about this, and this info has somehow magically been hidden from Toronto, and especially these threads full of urban nuts like me, then yes, maybe we will vote for another.
But your asking me to believe this based on your hunch...sorry I just can't buy it without the hardcore numbers and proof.

partybits · July 7th, 2005, 12:34 AM

lol, everyones making statements without facts at this point. Guess what everone, I'm dating Pamela Anderson...apparantly I just found out about it by reading it somewhere

bizorky · July 8th, 2005, 06:06 AM

Equalization does not cover transit.

DRTO · July 8th, 2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bizorky

Equalization does not cover transit.

So Quebec is not allowed to spend any of the $8 billion it receives annually on transit?

bizorky · July 8th, 2005, 08:36 PM

Okay dude,

Why don't you start showing some evidence for this five billion dollar expenditure on the Montreal subway system. You seem to know what is going on so provide some real, tangible evidence rather than some paranoid rant. The only subway building in Montreal in the last ten years was to run a tunnel under the river to one station in Laval. That did not cost five billion dollars and was in the works for years.

If you want to know how equalization money is spent, then why don't you go look it up. Try informing yourself. It is not my job to educate you on federal programs. While your at it, you can then dig up that phantom five billion dollar subway expenditure taken from federal transfers that was then used to build a phantom subway line that is yet to be known even by the people of Montreal who use the system every single day.

highpark · July 6th, 2006, 08:54 PM

Construction has started, the website has pictures

ps, i bought a unit, and thats how I found this forum.

Yay

www.sixtyloft.com

tkip · July 6th, 2006, 11:30 PM

Don't know exactly how much Montreal's Metro is funded but with the exception of their multiple lines, our trains are in much better condition. Also curious was the complete absence of recycling bins anywhere on the street.

When I visited Montreal a couple of weeks back, I was stunned at the condition and size of the cars. Small, cramped, falling apart, vandalized and noisy. The stations were fine but man, they need new trains.

And since we're on the topic of trains. Has anyone else noticed how TTC vechicles seem cleaner these days? Not as much junk on the floors as before. I think they hired more cleaners and added more shift rotations.

current · May 11th, 2007, 09:23 PM

Construction has now reached the eighth floor. The building will be ten storeys high. The glass facade along with the bright red pannels have been installed on the second floor facing Bathurst St.

VikkyD · May 16th, 2007, 02:24 AM

walked by this building today... its looking nice! the glass is up on the lower most floors, and my GOODNESS the ceilings heights are AMAZING! i think it'll turn out nicely! this whole area is like condo city!

ericeric · May 21st, 2007, 07:16 PM

Haha, wow there's a lot in this thread which totally has nothing to do with Sixty Lofts. Anyway, yeah I went in their presentation centre, everything looks very nice. The condo fees are very, very low (but I think there are next to no amenities), but I think that's cool. The area does smell quite a bit like the abattoir though.

July 6th, 2005, 04:39 PM	#48
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,474 Likes (Received): 0	"Quebec and Newfoundland's economies have been growing faster than Ontario's for the past few years, and Halifax's unemployment rate is much lower than Toronto's, so why are we sending them more money?" Can't compare economies on rate of growth and Halifax is only one city in NOVA SCOTIA ( also, not all unemployed get counted) __________________ Jeez, supertalls and faux deco.

July 6th, 2005, 10:15 PM	#50
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,474 Likes (Received): 0	"Can you back that up with facts?" LMAO - Do you? __________________ Jeez, supertalls and faux deco.

July 6th, 2006, 11:30 PM	#57
tkip Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 135 Likes (Received): 0	Here's my take on this transit affair. Don't know exactly how much Montreal's Metro is funded but with the exception of their multiple lines, our trains are in much better condition. Also curious was the complete absence of recycling bins anywhere on the street. When I visited Montreal a couple of weeks back, I was stunned at the condition and size of the cars. Small, cramped, falling apart, vandalized and noisy. The stations were fine but man, they need new trains. And since we're on the topic of trains. Has anyone else noticed how TTC vechicles seem cleaner these days? Not as much junk on the floors as before. I think they hired more cleaners and added more shift rotations.

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July 5th, 2005, 06:38 AM	#41
bizorky Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 318 Likes (Received): 0	I read the Montreal Gazette online. No five billion federal investment in subway lines.

July 6th, 2005, 02:29 PM	#46
KGB Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: TO Posts: 5,820 Likes (Received): 1	Well, since equalization payments are mandated by the constitution, I really don't think that particular issue matters which party is in power. And besides, nobody would hinge their political philosophy on that one issue anyway. KGB

July 7th, 2005, 12:34 AM	#52
partybits partybits Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,442 Likes (Received): 0	lol, everyones making statements without facts at this point. Guess what everone, I'm dating Pamela Anderson...apparantly I just found out about it by reading it somewhere

July 8th, 2005, 06:06 AM	#53
bizorky Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 318 Likes (Received): 0	Equalization does not cover transit.

July 8th, 2005, 08:36 PM	#55
bizorky Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 318 Likes (Received): 0	Okay dude, Why don't you start showing some evidence for this five billion dollar expenditure on the Montreal subway system. You seem to know what is going on so provide some real, tangible evidence rather than some paranoid rant. The only subway building in Montreal in the last ten years was to run a tunnel under the river to one station in Laval. That did not cost five billion dollars and was in the works for years. If you want to know how equalization money is spent, then why don't you go look it up. Try informing yourself. It is not my job to educate you on federal programs. While your at it, you can then dig up that phantom five billion dollar subway expenditure taken from federal transfers that was then used to build a phantom subway line that is yet to be known even by the people of Montreal who use the system every single day.

July 6th, 2006, 08:54 PM	#56
highpark Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 11 Likes (Received): 0	Construction has started, the website has pictures ps, i bought a unit, and thats how I found this forum. Yay www.sixtyloft.com

May 11th, 2007, 09:23 PM	#58
current Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,940 Likes (Received): 3	Construction has now reached the eighth floor. The building will be ten storeys high. The glass facade along with the bright red pannels have been installed on the second floor facing Bathurst St.

May 16th, 2007, 02:24 AM	#59
VikkyD Yip-Eyey-Kie-Ay Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 192 Likes (Received): 0	walked by this building today... its looking nice! the glass is up on the lower most floors, and my GOODNESS the ceilings heights are AMAZING! i think it'll turn out nicely! this whole area is like condo city!

May 21st, 2007, 07:16 PM	#60
ericeric Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 69 Likes (Received): 0	Haha, wow there's a lot in this thread which totally has nothing to do with Sixty Lofts. Anyway, yeah I went in their presentation centre, everything looks very nice. The condo fees are very, very low (but I think there are next to no amenities), but I think that's cool. The area does smell quite a bit like the abattoir though.