The Northern Quarter - Page 6

Jongeman · October 18th, 2005, 12:47 AM

HIghriser, I've never noticed the building on the right. It's an affront to humanity......(too much?)

Thanks caw for the pic and render of Pall Mall House. I hadn't quite figured out precisely where it was, but now I know. It's bloody fantastic, makes the NQ look even more like New York than it already does.

Just had a thought. Get rid of Church St carpark.....it gets more evil every time I see it, incorporate the surface car park opposite and you've got a new square/piazza. Could be the social hub of the NQ, along with Oldham St.

rolybling · October 18th, 2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jongeman

HIghriser, I've never noticed the building on the right. It's an affront to humanity..

It's not that nice jongy..hehe.

Its nasty, I hope someone drops a big old bomb on it and soon

skymann · October 18th, 2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rolybling

It's not that nice jongy..hehe.

Its nasty, I hope someone drops a big old bomb on it and soon

Can't bring to mind a worse building in Mcr. Would be great if they demolished it and got another sleek apartment block in its stead. Maybe a nice 25-35 floor job to go well with Pall Mall House.

rolybling · October 19th, 2005, 11:56 AM

well something on a par with the Conran building would be nice, quality wise I mean, its really lifted that junction no end

GShutty · October 31st, 2005, 06:48 PM

The scaffolding has finally started to come off the Birchin and it looks class. They haven't tried to be clever, just classic grey windows and a cleaned white stone exterior. Really pleasing.

If you look at the first page of this thread, you can see an old image, of boarded up windows. It should look fabulos when along with Pall Mall House it's all completed. Perhaps the ubiquitous JRB (or anybody else) can get a photo of this!?

As said sometime ago, I believe the building on the corner of Church St and High St, housing (not the conarn one!) has about 12months left to live. I hope so.

It's some way off now, but when the new glass market is in place, instead of BHS (comp.2009), that part of the city will be top drawer!

Legin · October 31st, 2005, 10:32 PM

Here you go, Also check the website, the best elevation unfortuantely will be facinng Debhanem's

SleepyOne · October 31st, 2005, 10:35 PM

There was a good picture of the completed Birchin posted on another thread. Can't remember where. It looked good though.

[edit - thanks Legin]

What form will the Market St / High St junction take? Will this part of the arndale actually be rebuilt do we know or merely given the same disappointing reclad as the rest of Market St?

Northbeach · October 31st, 2005, 11:18 PM

Daniel Liebskind will build his rumoured retail scheme (matching the height of Debenhams and Lewis's) here Sleepy. I read that on a tight pocket of the internet a while ago.
Didn't actually mention this particular plot but it's a nice thought eh?
I'd be interested to know also.

btw - does anybody know what the area of land behind the CIS/around Rochdale Road is called (there's a little hidden park here also). Many thanks.

GShutty · November 1st, 2005, 02:56 PM

Yeah Northbeach, thats' called Shudehill and the Park is Angel Meadows. Apparently it can't be built upon as it is a burial ground for plague victims and the virus is still active! Really nice there in the summer just to escape for a while.

Now that the wraps are coming off the latest Green Quarter Buildings that area is beginning to feel less and less isolated, and with Icon.25 almost ready and schemes that cross Rochdale Rd, namely Skyline Central, it will soon be part of the City Centre, rather than a short stroll through no-mans land. Promising

spacepostman · November 1st, 2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jongeman

The Civic Society don't quite think in those terms. Even though they're about 20 years old, they're already a bit of a spent force. They think they understand Manchester, but in reality,they've got no more of an idea than any other Mancunian.

Why don't we start our own?

jrb · November 1st, 2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Northbeach

Daniel Liebskind will build his rumoured retail scheme (matching the height of Debenhams and Lewis's) here Sleepy. I read that on a tight pocket of the internet a while ago.
Didn't actually mention this particular plot but it's a nice thought eh?
I'd be interested to know also.

btw - does anybody know what the area of land behind the CIS/around Rochdale Road is called (there's a little hidden park here also). Many thanks.

Care to expand on this info Northy?

Never heard of this scheme before! How old are the rumours, etc, etc!

Is that why that end of the Arndale remains untouched?

GShutty · November 1st, 2005, 06:21 PM

I'm sure that the corner of Market St/High is going to be a glass market. The area that is now a car park will be re-clad. It won't be special, but it will be an improvement, most significantly the ground floor retail space (comp. Xmas 2006).

With the perceived increase in footfall on High St, given the Shudehill Interchange as well, they must surely have to think about pedestrianising High St.- trams aside.

Legin · November 1st, 2005, 08:40 PM

If you are interested in the history of this area check this websit out. http://www.ancoatslittleitaly.com/

SleepyOne · November 1st, 2005, 11:40 PM

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I'm sure that the corner of Market St/High is going to be a glass market. The area that is now a car park will be re-clad. It won't be special, but it will be an improvement, most significantly the ground floor retail space (comp. Xmas 2006).

Are you sure? Forgive my ignorance but isn't that the single level Market hall they are constructing at present within the ground floor of the present multistorey arndale car park, fronting High St? That of the lame, tokenistic limestone cladding panels covering just this ground floor.

It would be surely folly not to substantially rebuild that corner of the Arndale centre of a scale to match the grand Debenhams and Primark buildings, adjacent? At present, its sheer ugliness is magnified by its prominence unfortunately and it doesnt get much better the further you advance down Market St. They need to do something drastic here. I do like the Liebeskind rumour you keep peddling though Northbeach, however improbable!

Northbeach · November 2nd, 2005, 01:40 AM

Indeed Sleeps.
Keeps taunting me though beyond the intragrave (I've searched high & low but cannae find anything to substantiate this). Read'ed its with me own mince pies though.

Quote:

Yeah Northbeach, thats' called Shudehill and the Park is Angel Meadows. Apparently it can't be built upon as it is a burial ground for plague victims and the virus is still active!

Still Shudehill then? Blimey.
Mind you the plague bit puts me off a picnic idea in Angel Meadows in the summer.
We need to get Acorah round there with Sam.
Cheers.

Farsight · November 2nd, 2005, 08:44 AM

What's a Glass Market?

Manc Guy · November 2nd, 2005, 12:42 PM

A market selling glass

kids · November 10th, 2005, 09:38 PM

Just found this, a rather nice looking apartment block in the northern quarter by Chapman Robinson Architects

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Spear Street

28 new build apartments with retail/commercial at ground floor level
Corner of Spear Street and Great Ancoats Street, Manchester

This is a 7 storey high density apartment block in the heart of the Northern Quarter regeneration area of Manchester.
Riverside have a number of schemes in the area which are designed to meet the need for key worker housing in the city centre.

Client: Riverside Housing Association
Budget: £2,500,000.00
Programme: 2003 - 2005

SleepyOne · November 10th, 2005, 10:16 PM

I suppose you could call this Northern Quarter although it fronts our main gateway route into Piccadilly Gardens. Good to see this finally on site although not sure when the new-build block is due to start.

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Piccadilly Estate

The Piccadilly Estate comprises 5 prominent city blocks fronting Piccadilly in the heart of Manchester City Centre. The buildings consist principally of typical Manchester Victorian warehouses, most of which are Grade 2 listed. Provan and Makin gained planning permission for the conversion of most of the estate into over 200 residential units, with some commercial units. The works, currently on site, involve refurbishment, and new build elements together with a new public open space called Adelphi Square

A new public square and more commercial units, together with the bringing back to life of an important block of buildings - all good news.

Architects are Provan and Makin

highriser · November 10th, 2005, 10:38 PM

Cheers for that Sleepy , i was around this area today , theres loads of builder's in and out of the back of these building's , on Back Piccadilly and China Lane.

So the new build will replace the Prince of Wales building?looks good , and looking at that model , the building where the open space (Adelphi Sq) as already been demolished,,all systems go in Piccadilly

October 19th, 2005, 11:56 AM	#104
rolybling CAN'T BE ARSED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,859 Likes (Received): 0	well something on a par with the Conran building would be nice, quality wise I mean, its really lifted that junction no end __________________ New and improved!

October 31st, 2005, 06:48 PM	#105
GShutty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lancs Posts: 2,000 Likes (Received): 17	The Birchin unveils! The scaffolding has finally started to come off the Birchin and it looks class. They haven't tried to be clever, just classic grey windows and a cleaned white stone exterior. Really pleasing. If you look at the first page of this thread, you can see an old image, of boarded up windows. It should look fabulos when along with Pall Mall House it's all completed. Perhaps the ubiquitous JRB (or anybody else) can get a photo of this!? As said sometime ago, I believe the building on the corner of Church St and High St, housing (not the conarn one!) has about 12months left to live. I hope so. It's some way off now, but when the new glass market is in place, instead of BHS (comp.2009), that part of the city will be top drawer! __________________ Keep the Faith.

November 1st, 2005, 02:56 PM	#109
GShutty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lancs Posts: 2,000 Likes (Received): 17	Yeah Northbeach, thats' called Shudehill and the Park is Angel Meadows. Apparently it can't be built upon as it is a burial ground for plague victims and the virus is still active! Really nice there in the summer just to escape for a while. Now that the wraps are coming off the latest Green Quarter Buildings that area is beginning to feel less and less isolated, and with Icon.25 almost ready and schemes that cross Rochdale Rd, namely Skyline Central, it will soon be part of the City Centre, rather than a short stroll through no-mans land. Promising __________________ Keep the Faith.

November 1st, 2005, 06:21 PM	#112
GShutty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lancs Posts: 2,000 Likes (Received): 17	Glass Market I'm sure that the corner of Market St/High is going to be a glass market. The area that is now a car park will be re-clad. It won't be special, but it will be an improvement, most significantly the ground floor retail space (comp. Xmas 2006). With the perceived increase in footfall on High St, given the Shudehill Interchange as well, they must surely have to think about pedestrianising High St.- trams aside. __________________ Keep the Faith.

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October 18th, 2005, 12:47 AM	#101
Jongeman van het noorden Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Far East Manchester Posts: 1,682	HIghriser, I've never noticed the building on the right. It's an affront to humanity......(too much?) Thanks caw for the pic and render of Pall Mall House. I hadn't quite figured out precisely where it was, but now I know. It's bloody fantastic, makes the NQ look even more like New York than it already does. Just had a thought. Get rid of Church St carpark.....it gets more evil every time I see it, incorporate the surface car park opposite and you've got a new square/piazza. Could be the social hub of the NQ, along with Oldham St.

October 31st, 2005, 10:32 PM	#106
Legin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Likes (Received): 0	Here you go, Also check the website, the best elevation unfortuantely will be facinng Debhanem's

October 31st, 2005, 10:35 PM	#107
SleepyOne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,091 Likes (Received): 0	There was a good picture of the completed Birchin posted on another thread. Can't remember where. It looked good though. [edit - thanks Legin] What form will the Market St / High St junction take? Will this part of the arndale actually be rebuilt do we know or merely given the same disappointing reclad as the rest of Market St?

October 31st, 2005, 11:18 PM	#108
Northbeach A roussos is for life. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,176 Likes (Received): 0	Daniel Liebskind will build his rumoured retail scheme (matching the height of Debenhams and Lewis's) here Sleepy. I read that on a tight pocket of the internet a while ago. Didn't actually mention this particular plot but it's a nice thought eh? I'd be interested to know also. btw - does anybody know what the area of land behind the CIS/around Rochdale Road is called (there's a little hidden park here also). Many thanks.

November 1st, 2005, 08:40 PM	#113
Legin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 314 Likes (Received): 0	If you are interested in the history of this area check this websit out. http://www.ancoatslittleitaly.com/

November 2nd, 2005, 08:44 AM	#116
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,997 Likes (Received): 24	What's a Glass Market?

November 2nd, 2005, 12:42 PM	#117
Manc Guy I'm sure ting 'blad'! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,749 Likes (Received): 2	A market selling glass

November 10th, 2005, 10:38 PM	#120
highriser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,233 Likes (Received): 3	Cheers for that Sleepy , i was around this area today , theres loads of builder's in and out of the back of these building's , on Back Piccadilly and China Lane. So the new build will replace the Prince of Wales building?looks good , and looking at that model , the building where the open space (Adelphi Sq) as already been demolished,,all systems go in Piccadilly