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Old August 12th, 2005, 07:10 PM   #41
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St Patrick's Cathedral is the closest to a European church in NYC.






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Old August 12th, 2005, 08:53 PM   #42
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mi favourite is the Laon cathedral (France), I never seen another cathedral more gorgeous.
















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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:09 PM   #43
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Thanks for the pics, TalB!

St. Patrick's is lovely, isn't she, nestlling delcately among the towering 'scrapers?...Gothic does have a special knack for making stone look light and airy...One of the highlights of my recent trip to NYC!

And she's such a HUGE architectural contrast to that shiney glass box!

Umm, pardon me, Valia, but isn't that first shot of Notre Dame de Paris..?
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Old August 13th, 2005, 03:35 AM   #44
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Umm, pardon me, Valia, but isn't that first shot of Notre Dame de Paris..?
gosh! yes, sorry, the first photo is Paris, I was mistaken, pardon.

This is Laon from de north, forgive me



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Old August 15th, 2005, 07:02 PM   #45
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No problem. Valia :-)

And thanks for another beautiful picture - I don't think I've ever seen Laon from that angle before. She's definitely another gem in France's Gothic diadem ....
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Old August 19th, 2005, 11:17 AM   #46
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greatest never built cathedral and what I believe would have been the most sublime in the world... marching easily past St Peter's, St Paul's, Rouen and Cologne. Lutyens' final masterpiece... unfortunately only the crypt was built and instead we got this pile of mediocrity:



That's the catholic cathedral: the anglican one was built to plan and has its own qualities... though they are mainly only those of a rather heavy presence.

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Old August 19th, 2005, 01:23 PM   #47
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Köln, Ulm are my favorites.

My favorite in Switzerland is the Münster in Bern:




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Old August 19th, 2005, 01:56 PM   #48
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yes, the sevilla cathedral is the biggest cathedral (not basilica) ever build, but doesn't mean that is the best one.
For me, the best ones are Notre Dame de Chartres, Burgos, Notre Dame de Reims, Leon, Toledo, Milano and Ulm
Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is the difference between a cathedral and a basilica?
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Old August 19th, 2005, 05:28 PM   #49
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A basilica is a FORM of church that began with the basilica, a type of Roman public building. It has a nave with a higher central aisle - the main vessel - and one or more lower aisles on each side, separated from the main nave by an arcade of piers or columns. The main vessel will have a tribune/triforium or gallery above the arcades, and a clerestory with windows above that.

The (most often) eastern end of the church, the farthest from the main entrance, which is where the choir and the altar are, is often separated from the nave by steps or a screen. But it will usually continue the same principle of high central vessel with gallery and clerestory surrounded by lower aisles;these aisles can swing right around the round eastern end of the church (the chevet).

If you look at the picture of St. Patricks (a basilica church) taken from the office window, you can see the lower, snow-covered roof of the side aisles at the bottom, underneath the windows of the clerestory, swinging around the chevet.

Laon is another basilica church; if you look at the cross section, you can see the tribune/triforium gallery above the side aisles, and the clerestory, where the highest butresses meet the walls, just below the roof. The elevation of the nave wall shows two sections between the arcade and the clerestory; I'm still a bit confused as to which is triforium, tribune, or gallery. Also note, from the ground plan, that Laon does not have a round chevet.

The basic plan has been much elaborated and modified over the centuries. For instance, side arms or transepts are often added to give the church the form of a cross, which you can see in both St. Patricks and Laon). But the key elements are still higher central vessel with arcades, tribune-gallery, and clerstory, and lower side aisles.

A cathedral (from Latin cathedra - throne or chair) is a church with a specific FUNCTION - it has a bishop's chair/throne in the choir; it's the archbishop or bishop's "home church", so to speak, where he presides at services, and the "mother church" of the diocese or archdiocese he administers.

Hope that helps, Nouvellecosse, without "snowing you under"...
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:32 PM   #50
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Thanks. Now let me just take a few hours and digest that
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:43 PM   #52
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The St. Basil's cathedral in Moscow and the Sagrada Familia, in Barcelona.
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Old August 24th, 2005, 01:58 PM   #53
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Local Cathedrals

Here are some of my hometown favorite cathedrals in Toledo, Ohio

St. Martin de Porres Church:


Downtown Trinity Church:


East Toledo Church:


Birmingham Church:


Holy Rosary Cathedral:
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Old August 26th, 2005, 12:51 AM   #54
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La Plata, Argentina




Salta, Argentina



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Old August 26th, 2005, 04:55 AM   #55
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La Sagrada Familia (Barcelona) will be the biggest in the world when finished, by 2020.

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And here with Torre Agbar, both together:
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Old August 26th, 2005, 04:42 PM   #56
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From pictures I've seen, it looks like some of the stonework inside La Sagrada Familia might already be suffering from exposure to the weather, since the building isn't roofed in yet. Can anybody verify that for me?

If they keep on schedule, they'll be WAY ahead of St. John the Divine in New York, which is finally supposed to become St. John the Finished in 2050 or thereabouts, last I heard....
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Old August 30th, 2005, 01:36 PM   #57
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My favourite three Cathedrals



Basel Münster



York Minster



Westminster Cathedral
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Old August 31st, 2005, 03:42 AM   #58
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wow, Westminster Cathedral looks amazing.

another one I like very uch is the Duomo in Siena:

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St. Apostol Andreas , city of Patras , Peloponnese , GREECE

The two churches dedicated to Patras' patron Saint, St Andrew, constitute a national and Pan-Orthodox place of pilgrimage. The small Church was erected during the 1836-1843 period at the spot where Apostle Andrew died a martyr.
In the mid-4th century, on the initiative of Emperor Constantine, the Holy Relics was transferred to St Apostles' Church in Constantinople. When the Franks occupied the city, the Relics were transferred to Italy. On September 26th 1964, the Saint's Head returned to Patras by Pope Paul and after the actions that the citizens of Patras and the Orthodox Church took.


It is the one of the largest and most artistic church in the Balkans and one of the largest across Europe.
The Church's central dome is ~50m high and supports a five meter high gold-plated cross and twelve smaller ones, symbolising Jesus and his twelve disciples respectively. The church's capacity is 5.500 persons.



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Old September 7th, 2005, 01:13 PM   #60
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Lincoln, York, Reims, Bourges, Köln, Sagrada Familia and Bern where allready mentioned. These ones I also love:

Fribourg


Canterbury


San Marco


St. Basil's:
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