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Old May 23rd, 2005, 12:02 PM   #21
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1. History, lots of historical sights that have protected viewing corridors
2. Lengthy Planning and Complaint Procedures
3. Lack of Will and Need to build upwards, we built outwards instead
4. London is built on Clay Soil (easy to build tunnels, not so easy to build gigantic Scrapers)

Now we need to build up and we are, the difference is, we have strenious procedures that proposals needs to go through, meaning we filter out the un-needed rubbish designs and just get the quality stuff.

Plus we are spreading out our skyline, so pictures that show single clusters aren't representative of the whole city
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Old May 24th, 2005, 10:52 PM   #22
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Now we need to build up and we are, the difference is, we have strenious procedures that proposals needs to go through, meaning we filter out the un-needed rubbish designs and just get the quality stuff.
The standards required for tall building proposals in London are amazingly high, and in just a few years we've seen a range of projects that easily rank amongst the highest quality skyscrapers in the world. If built, the proposals would together create one of the finest clusters on the planet... an amazing contrast to what we see today.

And for the moment the proposals keep on coming... over the next few months, at least 3 stunning proposals will be unveiled, equal to if not better than anything we've seen to date (in fact, I think they'll rank amongst the most exciting schemes on these forums). The reason London hasn't made the actual leap yet is because of a sluggish office market... the towers need pre-lets, which simply aren't materialising. But there are some big requirements out there, so at least some towers will move forward at some point.
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Old May 24th, 2005, 11:25 PM   #23
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Wow! London's skyline will be revolutionalized in the future.

And London needs a bigger and better skyline for a city its size and greatness.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 05:12 AM   #24
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Thats a great job doing the future skyline. The skyline looks like a good improvement.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 05:28 AM   #25
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Britannia - What are the other 3 proposals? (DIFA is obviously one), but what about the other 2? My mind's gone blank.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 05:36 AM   #26
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why such a large cooling radiation, and than on the top of the building. why they set it not on the service area's?
I think it's due to the fact the building tapers. The floor plates near the top are too small for most other uses I think.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 12:48 PM   #27
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Britannia - What are the other 3 proposals? (DIFA is obviously one), but what about the other 2? My mind's gone blank.
its a secret at the mo, i think.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 12:54 PM   #28
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Britannia - What are the other 3 proposals? (DIFA is obviously one), but what about the other 2? My mind's gone blank.
I'm guessing he means the 70-storey Beetham Tower and the Wilkinson Eyre Tower, both on Blackfriars Road...



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Old May 25th, 2005, 01:34 PM   #29
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It really is going to grow into a sexy, suave, unique skyline. Despite its sparsity (sp?), it still has a very nice character.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 03:01 PM   #30
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Britannia - What are the other 3 proposals? (DIFA is obviously one), but what about the other 2? My mind's gone blank.
Then you'll be all the more surprised when they come out! You probably know they're on the cards, just not when they're due... sorry I can't tell you any more.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 03:23 PM   #31
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Hmm ... you could also be talking about the Vauxhall cluster.


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Old May 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM   #32
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Oooh, it's so exciting... I can't wait!
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Old May 25th, 2005, 08:42 PM   #33
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All in time for the London 2012 Olympic games i hope ( fingers crossed London is give the chance ). By this date i'm sure the city will have plenty of spectacular skyscrapers to exhibit to the rest of the world. Top Class.
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Old May 25th, 2005, 08:50 PM   #34
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I think it's due to the fact the building tapers. The floor plates near the top are too small for most other uses I think.
ok, than it's an good and cheep solution to make a tall tower with +-70 floors.......

looks better than the 'skeleton' of the Freedom Tower!
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Old May 25th, 2005, 10:35 PM   #35
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The radiator at the top of LBT is to cool the building I believe, and as heat rises there'd be little point in putting it anywhere else!

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Hmm ... you could also be talking about the Vauxhall cluster.
No, I'm not doing any towers in Vauxhall. Anyway, my point was just that there are more world class schemes coming forward... I'm not trying to give hints!
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Old May 25th, 2005, 10:46 PM   #36
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would you confirm or deny?
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Old May 25th, 2005, 10:56 PM   #37
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why such a large cooling radiation, and than on the top of the building. why they set it not on the service area's?
Radiatiors are almost always either A)on the roof or B) underground if the building is cooled using a nearby river or water supply. I personally like how LBT integrates the cooling sysyem into the tower so well as opposed to many buildings where they just drop huge clunky cooling plants on the roof.
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No... anyway it won't make any difference if you do know, there aren't any pictures to show you!
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Damn you!!!! You don't know how to 'leak' properly.
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No... anyway it won't make any difference if you do know, there aren't any pictures to show you!
Are you working with Wilkinson Eyre at the moment? Very good architects I think
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