NHS Greater Glasgow - Future Estates

[gleegie]

The ET's have a SGH model.


A box.

[Vladimir V L]

The blue walkways look like quite an interesting feature though, so many of them in a line, but yes, its a box

[gleegie]

I wouldn't place any great stock in that anyway, planning has only just got underway on the new South Glasgow Hospital.


Doodle's even include a tower, surrounded by an ocean of car parking.


The £350 million hospital will have more than 1,500 beds when complete, making it largest in the UK.


Construction to start in late 2008, completion in 2010-11.


The clock tower and management building seem to be the only Victorians being retained.

[gweilo]

Hmmm not impressed. This is a major local issue for southsiders and we are being rode roughshode over. Inspite of the adjacency of the motorway the Southern general is not easy to get to. I know this because my partner had life saving surgery there a couple of years back and getting to and from the place when not using a car was a nightmare! A week and a half of enduring disjointed public transport from the city centre let alone the complete lack of connectivity across the southside. It is too remote. And worse being next door to the sewage works it literally stinks. The psychological impact of this for healing purposes cannot be good.

[gleegie]

Psychological? On a bad day it makes you physically wretch. The sewage works is off Govan Road to the south. Might explain why they're scrunching the new build in the northern plot.

The Southern's already the main hospital for the South, it's a pity the subway terminates at Govan Cross but it's literally a five min hop. The new Govan Interchange should make travel more pleasant

Anyway, see it in context here

[gleegie]

Info added at Future Glasgow on Beatson Oncology phase 2 and Leukaemia Centre.

[Boards]

Very annoyed at the decision to close the queen mum's in the first place and then not having the replacement up and and running for possibly for years. Its a centre of world excellance ( and we dont cant say that about too many things in the city anymore ) and I'm very dissapointed. Its a very poor decision especially when the lives of young children are involved. I spent a couple of months there after I was born and its a very sad day. Surely the only sensible option is to have the queen mums up and running until the whole new replacement is ready and then transfer over. Money talks though.

[M_Riaz]

ET NHS bosses to re-name Southern General

AN artist's view of how the Southern's new £450m hospital, to replace the current sprawling buildings on the site, will look

GLASGOW's Southern General Hospital could be about to be renamed, it emerged today.
NHS bosses have already come up with a working title, South Glasgow Hospital, to reflect the site's massive expansion and increasing importance.
The Southern is to be hugely expanded with a new £450million adult hospital to replace the current buildings at the site.
It is this new unit that has been dubbed "South Glasgow".

[gleegie]

HLM Architects are behind the Victoria ACAD.

[Socceroo]

You could put bars on the windows of the new Victoria ACAD and it would pass as a prison.

[gleegie]

Victoria ACAD design has been updated. The building segments have been merged into a continuous crescent and the entrance portal appears more grandiose.

Heartening that HLM have steadily refined the design.
www.glasgowarchitecture.co.uk

[Irwell]

Originally Posted by gleegieboy

The £350 million hospital will have more than 1,500 beds when complete, making it largest in the UK.

Construction to start in late 2008, completion in 2010-11.

Those figures sound a little far-fetched to me. The new Manchester Royal Infirmary has over 1,500 beds, making it the same size as this one. It started construction last year at a cost of £420 million. Taking inflation into account, that would be around £470 million in 2008 money. Where has the £120 million saving come from?

Originally Posted by M_Riaz

The Southern is to be hugely expanded with a new £450million adult hospital to replace the current buildings at the site.

That sounds a little more realistic price-wise, though still a little low.

[Boards]

As far as I'm aware hospital build costs aren't based on the number of beds.

[Irwell]

Originally Posted by Boards

As far as I'm aware hospital build costs aren't based on the number of beds.

The London, Manchester and Birmingham super hospitals have been approximately the same costs, give or take a bit for inflation. £350 million is way too low for a PFI scheme on this scale.

[gleegie]

The new hospital will total 1,500 beds but 400 of those are carried over from the existing hospital which are being retained. The £350 million thus covers 1,100 new beds and refurbishment of the remainder.

The £450 million figure counts the £350 million Southern and a new £100 million Childrens Hospital, which was announced subsequent to my post to be relocationg to the site.

No design has been settled and doubtless pricing will be subject to further inflation prior to build, as has happened at the Victoria.

[meagain]

oh dear,
- interlocking concrete panels; replaced with cheaper alternative (possibly render)
- oversailing roofs; replaced with handrail
- articulation of block as pavillions to break up long facade; removed and filled in
- stepped boundary wall; removed
looks to me like value engineering strikes again. it was beginning to look half decent and has now been dumped in the banal bucket
real shame, battlefield needs something of quality to replace the sandstone school that's been demolished
doubt the planners will do anything to prevent this but PPP and VE doing the city some damage again...... really pisses me off every time!

[gleegie]

Materials spec.

Dark blue/gray brickwork, terracotta rainscreen, patinised copper panels and render.

[M_Riaz]

Vision for a new Vicky

BBC

IMAGES of the controversial £100million day hospital which will replace the Victoria Infirmary were unveiled today as work began on site.

Health Minister Andy Kerr cut the first sod of turf at a special event to launch the development on Glasgow's South Side.

Mr Kerr said the new Victoria would bring "state-of-the-art health care to the community".

[legslikeaspider]

Is it just me or is that a particularly vacuous pronouncement made by Andy Kerr? I'm sure we were all worried that the executive would announce that the new hospital would bring 2nd rate health care and I'm so glad to hear that it will be directed towards the community rather than, say, hospital patients.

Building itself looks reasonably interesting, although I'm not convinced by the giant green rectangle on the right hand side: looks like a packet of chewing gum.

[M_Riaz]

The Acute Hospital Building proposal is being promoted for an architectural merited structure like the Abuja building in Dubai. Looking good if it becomes reality.

Story in the ET today as regards to the maternity wing @ the Queen Mothers hospital

Former Scottish Health Minister Malcolm Chisholm awarded Glasgow £100million to build a new children's hospital at the heart of maternity and adult services.This should lead to a "Gold Standard" service at the Southern General by 2010

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