China Railway Development News

[Knuddel Knutsch]

not necessarily.

I think there are quite some beautyfull locomotives around. Electric- as well as Diesel locomotives. Passenger-, as well as Freight locomotives.

I know that this becomes off topic, so I stop at this point, but I post links to some pics:
Maybe, if one of the chinese bureaucrats reads this thread: Pleas build some beautyfull locomotives next time. They dont cost more, just beacause the look better.

Taurus

V200-One of the most beautfyfull diesels I know

Eurorunner Diesel-loco. At least with a little bit of industrial design-attempts

Bombaridier Electro-Cargo-Loco

not beautyfill but at least all-right-looking.

[Matchut]

How's the service on Chinese trains these days?

[foxmulder_ms]

Raw power, cost, and efficiency is important here not the look But really they look like 20 years old already

[BarbaricManchurian]

Originally Posted by Matchut

How's the service on Chinese trains these days?

Mostly, it's you get what you pay for. The low-class tickets are not so bad, and the high-class tickets are not so good. Of course, you'd probably get restless in a "hard seat" (lowest class seat) in a 40 hour train ride, so the service is mostly subjective.

[crazymummyboy]

I like steam trains

[UD2]

Originally Posted by Knuddel Knutsch

great locomotives, great development.

But why do they have to be so fu**** ugly?

freight train locos... nobody's gonna look at them unless they're are real fans. And most real fans will find them pleasing to the eye no matter how they look =-)))

[ANR]

HLS Systems International Announces Signing of a $22 Million High Speed Railway Control Systems Contract

Wed Jul 16, 2008

BEIJING
HLS Systems International, Ltd. today announced that the Company, along with its partner
Ansaldo STS, has been awarded a contract by the People's Republic of
China (PRC) Ministry of Railways for the design, construction,
implementation, and maintenance of a new 300 kilometer per hour high
speed rail line. When completed, this rail line will span 459
kilometers, or approximately 285 miles, and link Zhengzhou in Henan
province and Xi'an in Shaanxi province.

The project was awarded to a consortium formed by HLS and Ansaldo
STS, a leading technology company listed on the Milan Stock Exchange
that operates in the global Railway and Mass Transit Transportation
Systems business. The total contract value amounts to RMB660 million,
or approximately US$97 million, with HLS' portion for the control
system amounting to RMB151 million, or approximately US$22 million.
HLS will begin recognizing revenues upon the commencement of the
project in the current quarter. The project is expected to be completed by the end of 2009.

Dr. Wang Changli, HLS' Chief Executive Officer commented, "The 300
kilometer per hour high speed train will be one of the fastest
passenger trains in China and we are very excited to announce that HLS
has been awarded the automation control system contract for this
prestigious project. We have been successful in implementing our
control systems in the current 200 kilometer per hour high speed rail
lines in China and this new contract for the more advanced 300
kilometer per hour rail line is a testament to our high quality system
design and performance.

HLS is one of only five companies authorized by China's Ministry
of Railways to provide automation control systems for its railway
systems, one of only three companies that have the capability to
provide control systems for high speed rail networks and one of only
two companies able to provide automation systems for trains with
speeds of 300 kilometers per hour or greater. Based on our track
record and close cooperation with the Ministry of Railways, we believe
that HLS is well positioned to receive additional contracts in this
300 kilometer per hour rail category."

HLS Systems International has become one of the leading automation
systems providers in the PRC, developing a number of core technologies
and completing numerous projects utilizing a wide array of automation
products.

[ANR]

China Railway Group Units Win Share of Shanghai-Nanjing High-speed Rail Projects

7/8/2008

China Railway Group Ltd said four units have won a share in the construction of the new Shanghai-Nanjing high-speed rail line. The units are China Railway Erju Co Ltd, China Railway No.3 Engineering Group, China Railway No.4 Engineering Group and China Railway No.10 Engineering Group, Xinhua reports.

The company did not give a total contract value in a statement filed with the Shanghai Stock Exchange, but it noted that the four contract awards represent the equivalent of 3.82 pct of the company's operating revenue last year. China Railway Group booked operating revenue of 180.51 bln yuan under Chinese accounting standards in 2007.

In a separate statement filed by listed unit China Railway Erju to the Shanghai bourse, Erju disclosed that its contract is worth 2.55 bln yuan with a completion time of 533 days.

[henrypan123]

Beijing - Tainjin High Speed rail


BEIJING SOUTH RAILWAY STATION

[henrypan123]

Photos taken on the CRH trains

[staff]

344 km/h! I didn't know they were operating at such high speed in commercial use.

[snow is red]

Work on city's high-speed rail lines moves at full steam

2008-8-28

HIGH-SPEED passenger rail lines are being built in Shanghai and three nearby provinces with investment on the new projects to reach 196.3 billion yuan (US$28.7 billion) this year, the Shanghai Railway Administration said yesterday.

SRA manages rail transport in Shanghai, neighboring Zhejiang and Jiangsu provinces and part of nearby Anhui Province.

SRA officials said the national authority planned to start building 18 new rail lines in the region this year, most of which would be for passenger transport. The lines would be designed with improved capacity and speed.

Of the total budget for railway construction this year, about 181 billion yuan has been earmarked to set up new lines and about 15.3 billion yuan allocated to upgrade and extend existing lines.

Of the new projects, the Shanghai-Nanjing passenger express has been praised by authorities for its efficiency and capacity. The new train shuttles on the line are expected to arrive at stops at three-minute intervals between Shanghai and Nanjing, the capital city of Jiangsu Province.

Bullet trains traveling at 220 kilometers an hour will serve the new passenger line.

Officials said the last of the residents living on the railway route in Jiangsu Province would be relocated by the end of the month and their houses demolished. Construction of the railway began on July 1. It is scheduled to open for service before July 1, 2010.

The project of Shanghai-Beijing express line was also launched in July.

When completed in 2010, the high-speed line will reduce train travel between Shanghai and Beijing from 12 hours to five hours.

Railway officials said new projects in the region likely to start before the end of the year included the passenger line between Hangzhou and Ningbo, both in Zhejiang Province, a line between Nanjing and Hangzhou, and another line between Nanjing and Anqing in Anhui Province.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article...761&type=Metro

[henrypan123]

Tianjin Railway Station

[ANR]

From Shanghai Daily on 8/29:

Maglev link eyed to Lingang
Created: 2008-8-29
Author:Dong Hui


THE Shanghai magnetic-levitation train line will be extended south into Nanhui District from Pudong International Airport, according to an urban planning blueprint published on a government Website yesterday.

The high-speed line that powers trains on a bed of magnetic energy, will extend south from the airport to Lingang New City, then turn west and terminate in Fengxian District. The plan was disclosed by the Shanghai Urban Planning Administrative Bureau.

The Maglev track is part of a plan to integrate the newly developed Nanhui District with the shipping economy. Nanhui is about 27.5 kilometers from Yangshan Deep-Water Port, and the Maglev service will be a big help for residents and businesses located in the area.

Industries here will be able to tap advanced manufacturing and port logistics.

Lingang New City in Nanhui District is a township that stretches across 55.3 square kilometers and can accommodate 830,000 residents.

"The line extension will definitely be a boost for Lingang New City," said a Nanhui District official who declined to be named.

In addition to the new Maglev track, Metro Line 11 will lead directly to Lingang New City by 2012. Route planning for Metro Lines 2, 18 and 21 has also been done, according to Xu Ming with the urban planning bureau.

However, the Maglev extension plan is still in its nascent stage.

"Further studies are needed on the Maglev line," the planning document said.

An environmental impact study will have to be conducted and public opinion will be solicited.

According to the city's planning blueprint, the Maglev line will eventually link Shanghai's two airports with east Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province, a connection that would cut commuting time between the two cities to 30 minutes.
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I have seen some recent comments indicating their dis-belief that Shanghai may extend the current Maglev system. The following from the Shanghai Daily on 11/22/08 makes me believe that eventually Shanghai will expand their Maglev system:

Green light for maglev factory in Shanghai
Updated：2007-11-22


Shanghai is planning to build a low-speed Maglev train-manufacturing factory in suburban Nanhui District. The factory, which will cover an area of 230,000 square meters, is designed to generate 60 Maglevs and 300 levitation frames each year.

Each train will have a maximum speed of about 100 kilometers per hour, compared with the Maglev that runs between Longyang Road and Pudong International Airport and hits 430kmh. Xu Jianguo, president of the Shanghai Electric Co Ltd, the train manufacturer, said the lower-speed models will be quieter and more eco-friendly. Preliminary scientific research has been completed and the firm will start construction of the train and frame-production plant with a fixed-asset investment of 310 million yuan (US$42 million).

The information came after the Shanghai Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference yesterday held a seminar about the planning of Lingang New City in Nanhui. The small city, close to the Yangshan Deep-Water Port, will cover a total area of 296.5 square kilometers and have an estimated population of 800,000 by 2020.

[:jax:]

Is there any map over Chinese high-speed railways, like the one made for Europe?

[Knuddel Knutsch]

@ANR Everyone whos into the topic knows that right now, there is aboslutely nothing going on concerning any kind of possible maglev extension.

They are only producing on press release after another, but not one single meter of maglev extension was built over the last 5 years (yes, its already 5 years, that the maglev in Shanghai is in operation---unbelievable.)

The first time, that an extension to Lingang was proposed was back in 2005.

I dont see any progress over the last years---especially compared to the size and speed that other projects in China are being realized. This shows that there is in fact no real political will.

Are there any maps showing the possible extension to Lingang btw?

[foxmulder_ms]

It is wonderful to see top nutch bullet trains of both Europe and Japan next to each other. They look awsome..

[snow is red]

China plans to beat own fastest train service record
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7765688
Reuters, Monday September 1 2008

BEIJING, Sept 1 (Reuters) - China plans to beat its own record for the world's fastest train service when a new link between Beijing and Shanghai opens by 2012, a state newspaper reported on Monday. The domestically developed train would run at 380 kpk (236 mph), slicing five or more hours off the current journey to just four hours, the official China Daily quoted Zhang Shuguang, the Ministry of Railways' deputy chief engineer, as saying.

China already claims the record for the fastest train service in the world, for the Beijing-Tianjin line, though there are trains in France which have higher operational speeds.

"We have mastered core technologies in terms of manufacturing high-speed trains and made innovative achievements in the process," he said.

"It is possible that we can start to manufacture 380-kph trains in two years' time, and put them into service on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway," Zhang added.

That line was expected to open in 2012, one year ahead of schedule, the newspaper said.

The new trains would also provide a stiff challenge to airlines, which put on dozens of 1-1/2-hour flights between the two cities a day.

China has invested billions of dollars upgrading its rail network, rolling out sleek new trains and extending the line even as far as the remote Tibetan capital of Lhasa.

A new express line from Beijing to its neighbouring city of Tianjin which opened last month in time for the Olympics reaches top speeds of 350 kmp. (Reporting by Ben Blanchard)

[Knuddel Knutsch]

380 km/h vmax and a total travel time between Beijing and Shanghai of 4 hours (!)

Somehow this high-speed rail development in China starts scaring me (cant wait to ride it)

[33Hz]

Not sure how we are getting a journey time of 4h at 380 km/h when the journey time was 5h at 350km/h, but if China can get to this speed in public service I wish them well.