China Railway Development News

[hkskyline]

Originally Posted by city_thing

And foreign debt!

Hopefully the US Government will sort out the entire economy, rather than just put a bandaid over the large corporations that are responsible for many problems.

I'm very impressed by China building an HSR line all the way from Beijing to HK. Will they be terminating at Hung Hom station in Kowloon? Or follow the airport express line to Central? TST East?

The HSR network in Guangdoing province is quite well established with express trains running between Guangzhou and Shenzhen already. Hong Kong is now constructing a new terminus in West Kowloon a block from Union Square and plans to build a dedicated HSR right of way to Shenzhen to link up with the mainland network. We expect future express trains into China will leave from West Kowloon instead of Hung Hom.

[Taipei Walker]

I took the train from Guangzhou East Station to Shenzhen just yesterday, it was very pleasant ride but I am not sure if it counts as high speed rail as the maximum speed was 200km/h. The whole jurney was just under 1 hour, trains are every 10 min. from 6:20 to 22:40.

[hkskyline]

^ I believe conventional high speed rail begins once the speed exceeds around 160 km/h, when special tracks / work on the tracks is needed to make higher speeds possible.

[nouveau.ukiyo]

I've seen many different definitions of high speed rail, it's hard to say what is and isn't...but I"m sure the top speed of the entire HK - Guangzhou route will be 200km/h. I think a more important number is average speed, which is a hard number to find since everyone is concerned about top speed. Acela in the US has a top speed of 150mph, but an average of 80mph I think? The top speed qualifies as HSR, the average definitely does not.

[hkskyline]

Originally Posted by nouveau.ukiyo

I've seen many different definitions of high speed rail, it's hard to say what is and isn't...but I"m sure the top speed of the entire HK - Guangzhou route will be 200km/h. I think a more important number is average speed, which is a hard number to find since everyone is concerned about top speed. Acela in the US has a top speed of 150mph, but an average of 80mph I think? The top speed qualifies as HSR, the average definitely does not.

I look at it from a capacity perspective, specifically how fast the track can support (not the train). If that entire line can support a 'high' speed, then it is a high speed line.

Acela is a weird case, since there is a section of track that does not support high speeds, yet it is called a high speed railway - perhaps for relative reasons.

[hkskyline]

Schenker rolls out Asia-Europe rail landbridge
20 October 2008
Shipping Digest

Gemany’s DB Schenker plans to offer scheduled rail freight services to China beginning in February. The Trans Eurasia Express will operate two container trains weekly to link China with Germany in less than 20 days.

The service is operated in conjunction with of five other railways, including the Chinese and Russian national carriers, said Schenker, the transportation and logistics service provider of national rail carrier Deutsche Bahn.

The service will connect Shanghai and Beijing with Hamburg, Nuremberg and Duisburg. Schenker said the service has attracted interest from the automotive, chemical, engineering and paper industries, as well as manufacturers of household goods.

[Mateusz]

Is there any HSR in China ?

[snow is red]

Originally Posted by Mateusz

Is there any HSR in China ?

If you just kindly spend some times reading through the thread. Thanks.

[BarbaricManchurian]

Originally Posted by Mateusz

Is there any HSR in China ?

There is Beijing-Tianjin HSR at 350km/h (fastest conventional train in regular service in the world), Qinhuangdao-Shenyang HSR at 250km/h, Guangzhou-Shenzhen HSR at 200km/h, and Shanghai maglev at 431km/h. And of course over 15 HSR lines U/C right now.

[hzkiller]

中国将加快两万亿铁路投资 应对危机
　核心提示：铁道部新闻发言人王勇平日前时表示，铁路新项目的投入会继续拉动经济增长。他表示目前国务院批复的铁路投资额已经达到2万亿元，未来随着实际情况的变化可能数字还将增加。
中国经济网10月24日报道 全球金融危机已经触及中国实体经济，增加固定投资一直是中国经济增长的主要动力。铁道部新闻发言人王勇平日前时表示，铁路新项目的投入，作为拉动经济增长的重要亮点，铁路部门已经做好了充分的准备。

他透露，在未来一段时间，中国将有很多重大项目投入施工。

王勇平称，现在国务院批复的铁路投资额已经达到2万亿元，其中在建项目的投资规模超过了1.2万亿。他特别指出，这些数字只是现在确定的数字，有的比"十一五"规划的数字已经有了提高，未来随着实际情况的变化，有些数字可能还会增加。

中共党中央政策研究室副主任郑新立在上周就曾表示，为了缓解全球信贷危机的冲击，中国正准备采取行动增加铁路投资，增加国内需求。郑新立提到，发改委正就铁路改革的细节进行研究。郑新立就当前正在起草的政策方案和1997-1998年亚洲金融危机后的公路建设项目做了对比。他说道，“上次我们建造公路体系来增加内需，这次我们很可能建造铁路网”。

小资料

发改委原先公布的十一五规划中，中国将新建铁路线1.7万公里，合计固定投资总额为1.5万亿元。而由铁道部公布的数据看，2006年和2007年的基本建设投资（路轨、桥梁、车站等固定设施）总额分别为1550亿和1772亿元左右，合计3300亿左右，比原投资计划要略低

[big-dog]

translation

Gov't sets $300b for railway construction

(China Daily)
Updated: 2008-10-25 10:46



The State Council has approved 2 trillion yuan ($292 billion) for the construction of a series of railway projects, to help boost economic growth amid the worldwide financial crisis.

Increasing investment in fixed assets has remained a catalyst of China's economic development. By 2010, the total length of China's railway will reach 90,000 km, according to the Ministry of Railways.

A number of major railway projects will be started soon, www.ce.cn - the country's leading economic news portal - quoted Wang Yongping, spokesman for the Ministry of Railways, as saying on Friday.

About 1.2 trillion yuan has already been allocated, he said.

Zheng Xinli, a senior government policy advisor, said: "In 1997, we dealt with the Asian financial crisis by stimulating domestic economic growth by investing in the construction of highways. This time the money will go on improving the rail network."

The National Development and Reform Commission is developing plans to improve the country's railway systems, he said.

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[snow is red]

Thank you for these pictures .

[baidu]

1.bold red lines: PDL(passenger dedicated line 350km/h,beijing~shanghai:380km/h) already U/C or planned
2.bold blue lines:PDL new added to the plan
3.red lines:conventional line(200km/h or 160+km/h) already U/C or planned
4.blue lines:conventional line new added to the plan
5.black lines:line already finished construction
6.dashed blue lines:under discussion
7.others you need not to know natonal secret

[snow is red]

It's too big and too bright, really hard to see.

[BarbaricManchurian]

Map is old, many of the railways marked as u/c have been finished.

[Whiteeclipse]

Good to hear about the $292 billion for railway construction in China.

China is catching up
1. European Union 236,436 km year-2007
2. United States 226,612 km year-2005
3. Russia 87,157km year-2006
4. China 75,438km year-2005

[z0rg]

Wow, you can see the Shandong-Korea link in that map! So they are going to construct it? Crazy.

[Whiteeclipse]

Is Shandong-Korea link going to be the longest under water railway?

Would be nice to see the China and Taiwan link too.

[urbanfan89]

I doubt the Shandong/Korea or Fujian/Taiwan links will ever happen.

The former will be irrelevant once North Korea opens up and modernizes its Soviet-era infrastructure.

The latter is obviously drawn up for politics.

Does anyone have a recent map of rail projects?