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Old October 13th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #261
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It must have been made of the future space materials.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 09:05 PM   #262
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Is the first stop for the SKM underground, or just in a trench?
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Old October 13th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #263
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It's ground level tram stop. Only platforms and new shelters will be added.


We still don't know the exact design of the shelters. There are available various renders of the other stops of that line:








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Old October 20th, 2009, 08:46 PM   #264
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Some informations about commuter rail in Warsaw metro area.
scheme of the railway network and metropolitan ZTM (Municipal Transport Authority) ticket zones in Warsaw:


Now we have 3 operators:

1. WKD LTR operates on single line electrified at 600 Volts DC (33 km, 28 stations). It's owned by the Masovian Voivodeship and concerned municipalities. Line links downtown and south-western suburbs. It was opened in 1927, and has two stations in a dig in the city center. Currently they're trying to hold a tender for new trains. Warsaw metropolitan ZTM tickets are valid in city borders.

rolling stock and stations:


http://warszawa78.blox.pl/html






On the regular rail tracks operate 2 companies:

2. KM Masovian Railways owned by the Masovian Voivodeship. Warsaw metropolitan ZTM tickets are valid in zones I and II:


rolling stock:
EN57 and EN71(196 EMUs)
old

after modernization


http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...ls.php?album=8
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double decker Bombardier push-pull (26 coaches, 11 cab cars)
http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...ls.php?album=8


Duewag (11 Diesel MUs)


Stadler Flirt (10 EMUs)



3. SKM Urban Rapid Railway - new operator owned by Warsaw municipality. It performs supplementary function to KM on the most overloaded lines. Together with KM, SKM offers reasonable frequency in busy hours. It operates to ZTM order.

First regular line S2 operates from 2006. Second S9 will be opened in December.
Beginning of the construction of the last underground stretch of the planned third line to Okęcie Airport is scheduled for this year. Tender for 13 new train sets for this line is on way.
Underground airport station already built is waiting for the link:


rolling stock:
14WE - reconstruction based on EN57 (8 EMUs)
http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/....php?album=210


modernized EN 57 (6 EMUs)
http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/....php?album=210



Crucial for the railways in Warsaw is diametrical route opened in two phases in years 1933 and 1949. It crosses the Vistula River and runs partly underground, partly in a cut and partly elevated through the city center from east to west. It has separate tracks for local and long distance trains.
















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Old October 20th, 2009, 11:25 PM   #265
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1) WKD is a standard gauge railway, but with a tram 600 DC voltage.
2) WKD is under projecting his upgrading to 3000 DC (standard polish rail voltage)
3) SKM has got 7 or 8 14WE (http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...692_000015.jpg), those are heavily modernized EN57 (new body, old mechanism) 3 ex Yugoslavian 315 EMU (exported EN57 http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...331_000469.jpg )1 rented EN57 from SKM Trójmiasto (Gdańsk, Gdynia, Sopot [NOT the same company!])
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Old October 20th, 2009, 11:52 PM   #266
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1) WKD is a standard gauge railway, but with a tram 600 DC voltage.
2) WKD is under projecting his upgrading to 3000 DC (standard polish rail voltage)
My mistake, I got used to think about it as a narrow gauge railway.
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3) SKM has got 7 or 8 14WE (http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...692_000015.jpg), those are heavily modernized EN57 (new body, old mechanism) 3 ex Yugoslavian 315 EMU (exported EN57 http://www.przegubowiec.com/galeria/...331_000469.jpg ) 1 rented EN57 from SKM Trójmiasto (Gdańsk, Gdynia, Sopot [NOT the same company!])
Currently 5 or 6 EMUs, modernized to a greater or lesser degree, are rented/leased from various companies, but for customers it's unimportant what company owns trains which serve them under Warsaw SKM brand. http://www.przegubowiec.com/pkp/skm.htm And of course 14WE also comes from EN57, not EN71.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 04:26 PM   #267
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Poland: Warsaw metro deal to be signed on October 28th?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 07:15 PM   #268
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Poland: Warsaw metro deal to be signed on October 28th?
October 28th is the most probable date for Warsaw Metro to sign the contract on the construction of the central section of line 2, company spokesman says.

- The city awaits for the winning bidder to conclude all formalities, namely the list of people entitled to sign the contract documents and the transfer of PLN 247.5m to secure the contract.

The tender was won by a consortium of Astaldi (Italy), Gulermak (Turkley) and PBDiM (Poland).

The consortium offered PLN 4.1 billion (EUR 978m).

Other bidders, Covac (China) and Mostostal (Poland) protested against the result but their protests were dismissed.
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Old October 24th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #269
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Really nice shelter renders.
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Old October 24th, 2009, 11:42 AM   #270
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Does anyone know of any plans for further metro lines?
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In official plans there is only one additional south-east branch of the II line, which is called III line. Its western extension and IV line are currently only speculations. However route of that planned III line is very controversial, and may change.
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Can you tell me what the speculations are?
And why is it controversial?

Where would you guys put other Warsaw metro lines?
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It's controversial because You can achieve destinations on its route faster by the ground level tram line. There are, IMHO reasonable, proposals of the construction of the new tram link instead.

Proposed route of the western extension (red):

It's controversial either because it's parallel to the diametrical railway route (black) presented earlier in this thread, which can be upgraded.

IV line north-south parallel to the I. That one in opinion of many people is more necessary for the city than the III. One of the proposals (green):
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I would rather wait for trams like this on the visualisation :P
Now we know where that project comes from. :


[IMG]http://i39.************/j6j1tz.jpg[/IMG]
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contract was signed yesterday

http://www.railwaymarket.eu/8411/Pol...ucted%253F.htm
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Poland: How the 2nd metro line in Warsaw will be constructed?
According to the PLN 4.117 billion worth contract, the tunnel will be 6.1 km long and it will be constructed 8 meters under the ground. The main part of the second metro line will include 7 stations: Rondo Daszyńskiego, Rondo ONZ, Świętokrzyska, Nowy Świat, Powiśle, Stadion and Dworzec Wileński.

The tunnel will be bored with a mechanized tunnel machine (TBM). All stations will be constructed at the same time. After works are finished, Przedsiębiorstwo Budowy Dróg i Mostów (part of the consortium led by Astaldi) will have to repair all damaged roads and sidewalks.

Works are expected to start in Autumn 2010. Serious traffic problems will occur in places, where stations are to be built.




















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Very nice. I love the style of the entrance!
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Great news for Warsaw!

I have one question though...

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According to the PLN 4.117 billion worth contract, the tunnel will be 6.1 km long and it will be constructed 8 meters under the ground.
Only 8 meters? Is that correct? That doesn't sound too deep... Some buildings basement and foundation goes deeper... Not to mention the line is going under the Vistula river...
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Great news for Warsaw!

I have one question though...



Only 8 meters? Is that correct? That doesn't sound too deep... Some buildings basement and foundation goes deeper... Not to mention the line is going under the Vistula river...
For me it also sounds incredible. EDIT I found some information in the official documentation. It will be 8 meters under Vistula bottom. Deepest section, around 27 m under surface level, will be near Nowy Świat station.

Geological section of the line. Differences of the surface level are huge.
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That also should be interesting for those who don't know Warsaw as well as locals:
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The entrances are so simple and telling at the same time. Awesome.
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