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Old August 20th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #361
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Apparently construction work started on the second line of Warsaw's metro on
Mon 16th Aug 2010. Can anyone confirm this with a newspaper report or photos?
I would rather call it preliminary works than construction yet. As I know pics aren't available at the moment. Below some rough translation from the official webpage of warsaw's metro: http://www.metro.waw.pl/page.php?id=504.

The scope of works carried out in August by the contractor of the second metro line, in the surroundings of station "Rondo Daszyńskiego" will include:
- Change the geometry of street curbs;
- Change the location of traffic lights and street lighting;
- Construction of the temporary bus stops;
- Preparation of road signs and markings;
- Construction of the temporary pass by the tram rails on Kasprzaka st.

First excavations should start on September.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #362
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not bad , considering that Poland were to be the poorest country in the world.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 10:01 PM   #363
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not bad , considering that Poland were to be the poorest country in the world.
Are you f... rasist or what? Show me your country and we will be able to laugh too mate. As I asume, you ever and never saw African countries.
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Old August 21st, 2010, 02:51 PM   #364
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Polish is not a race so he's can't be racist, Caucasian is a race. He's just been provocative and probably meant how Poland used to be very poor and is still struggling to higher up its living standard so it's interesting to see how modern it's become on the other hand by buying new tramway cars.
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Old August 21st, 2010, 08:00 PM   #365
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 10:56 PM   #366
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Are you f... rasist or what? Show me your country and we will be able to laugh too mate. As I asume, you ever and never saw African countries.
I was joking , but it was your answer that was fool of rasism one if you don't understand something,first ask before you started to insult people

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Old August 22nd, 2010, 11:05 PM   #367
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not bad , considering that Poland were to be the poorest country in the world.
Poland is the poorest country in the world????What...if the world were Europe, Poland still would be far from poorest. But the country was in horrible shape in the 80's under martial law imposed by Soviet regime that's for sure.

Building a metro is very complex, start times are always fiddled with or delayed. The preliminary work has already start, boring won't start for a few months.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 07:48 PM   #368
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Four bids in the tender for the metros. Three important
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We already know the price in a tender offer to train for the second subway line. The four companies are fighting a contract: Konstal Alstom, CAF, Siemens, and Skoda

Of the four bids submitted, only three proved to be important - Alstom Konstal offer does not meet the tender conditions. Comparing the net, lowest bid by Spanish CAF: 982 mln zł. Another former Siemens in consortium with the Polish Newag (zł 1.069 billion) and Skoda, in consortium with the Russian company Wagnomasz (zł 1.108 billion).

The first two companies also reported prices plus VAT. Did not make the consortium Skoda. Now the committee will think that the price taken into consideration. Within a month to analyze the offer. In addition to the selection of money will be taken into account energy consumption and environmental friendliness. All 35 trains must arrive to Warsaw before the end of 2013.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 08:37 PM   #369
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Beautiful designs for the rolling stock.

The Siemens/NEWAG design looks slightly more outlandish.

And nice to see Shkoda/Vagonmash going with the NeVa design.

I wonder if CAF will pair up with PESA for their tender submission.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 07:53 AM   #370
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I like Siemens design, It has that unconventional and wonky that the Skoda design lacks. (The Skoda design looks a bit like some of newer metro trains on the Tokyo Metro.)
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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #371
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I prefer the Siemens metro train, but what is wrong with the current Alstom trains operating on Warsaw's metro? Apart from their loudness that is!
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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #372
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Well, their first flaw is that they are far too few to serve the existing line exclusively, not to mention the new line or improved headway planned on M1 for some time. And You just can't say in the Polish public procurement rules that "OK, I like those 17 trainsets I got ten years ago, let's buy another 35 with no tender". So, a new tender is needed.

Also, their ventilation does have some issues, and they're also not monospacious - those trains have separate cars with transfer between cars disabled for passenger operation. This of course is an issue with congestion, as it is difficult to move to another car - it requires switching cars on the platform.

Their final flaw is that Alstom was not willing to participate in the tender

As a side note- a sixth 120Na tramcar arrived in Warsaw today.
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Poland is the poorest country in the world????What...if the world were Europe, Poland still would be far from poorest. But the country was in horrible shape in the 80's under martial law imposed by Soviet regime that's for sure.

Building a metro is very complex, start times are always fiddled with or delayed. The preliminary work has already start, boring won't start for a few months.
I agree. People should come to Toronto and see our transportation system. The TTC stands for "Take the car" Poland will be more advanced in transportation than Canada in a few years. Anyone who thinks Poland is "poor" should get their heads examined. Try visiting a country in South America or Asia.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 09:14 PM   #374
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New train (ELF) for Warsaw ..will be on Euro 2012 ... Premiere on Inno Trans in Berlin. The product from PESA.

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Old October 12th, 2010, 01:23 AM   #375
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Construction of fast train connection between Warsaw's Chopin Airport and the city center :













Should be ready at the end of next year.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 05:35 PM   #376
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New rolling stock for Warsaw's metro second line was officially chosen :



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Good, the Awesome cars were chosen!!!
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #378
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Wow London Tube is 50 years behind with their trains
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Old October 15th, 2010, 01:03 PM   #379
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Old October 19th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #380
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Is there any plans of building 3rd subway line in Warsaw? Sofia Metro was much behind Warsaw one and now they are getting ahead building second and signing a contract for third line.
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