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Old July 2nd, 2015, 05:56 PM   #1221
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Trams are looked down upon in Poland?
No, they aren't. In cities without metro tramway is considered most efficient mean of transport. Position of a public transport in the Polish society is another matter. But it's rapidly growing.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 08:03 PM   #1222
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Dafuq?! Did the designers want to go for Donetsk v2.0?



https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=do...ed=0CAgQ_AUoAw
I don't see any similarites...
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 10:16 PM   #1223
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Trams are looked down upon in Poland?
Yes, familiarity breeds contempt.

By the way, don't take notice of Petr - he sounds like someone from the PR department of the transport authorities,
self-marketing tripe.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 10:47 PM   #1224
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Do you mean it looks tacky?
Yes, a little bit.

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So you are saying those designs are similar? In which universe?
In my own.

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I don't see any similarites...
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Old July 4th, 2015, 04:03 PM   #1225
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Old July 8th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #1226
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Old July 8th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #1227
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Old July 11th, 2015, 02:35 PM   #1228
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Tests of new large size gates for the M1 metro line:

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Old July 13th, 2015, 09:40 AM   #1229
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Dworzec Warszawa Zachodnia czyli Złote Tarasy w wersji light?





from 0:36 to 0:54
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Old July 13th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #1230
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Old July 14th, 2015, 09:42 PM   #1231
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First push&pull coaches from Pesa for Koleje Mazowieckie. Koleje Mazowieckie ordered 22 coaches and 2 electric locomotives in Pesa. They're prepared for 160 km/h v-max:

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Old July 30th, 2015, 07:30 PM   #1232
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Short Pesa Jazz started test rides with passengers:

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Old July 30th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #1233
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new M1 large size gates are still tested, and will be tested for six months:

http://www.transport-publiczny.pl/wi...rze-50082.html



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Old July 31st, 2015, 12:44 AM   #1234
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Short Pesa Jazz started test rides with passengers:

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This are pretty good looking trams, are they Pesa 121NbT as in Torun?
We in Sofia need around 100 new smaller 3 sections trams and we already have good experience with Pesa. Can you please tell me the price of the order in Warsaw (model, number of vehicles and price) as well as Torun (if you have it). Thank you in advance
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Pesa Jazz is a completely new model. Code name of its short version for Warsaw is 134N

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesa_Jazz

Contract for Warsaw was worth 189.24 mln zł what gives 6.3 mln zł or 1,52 mln € for a tram.
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Old July 31st, 2015, 06:37 PM   #1236
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This are pretty good looking trams, are they Pesa 121NbT as in Torun?
Pesa 134N. Called "short Jazz" (those for Toruń are called Swing). Rather similar to Jazz Duo for Gdańsk.
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Thanks guys! Yes, I figured out that these are different models. In your oppinion which is the more modern and reliable one? By the looks only, I like the Torun model more.

In Sofia we need many new shorter trams, and Pesa seems like the best offer in regard price/quality.
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Old July 31st, 2015, 10:28 PM   #1238
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Warsaw ordered trams more technically advanced then earlier Pesa Swing and Twist. Jazz is designed especially for Warsaw. Pesa's management wasn't happy about it.
Jazz for example has more modern bogies than earlier Pesa trams:

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Zdjęcia wagonu Pesa Jazz Duo 128N z mojej strony:


Nad wózkami wydaje się być przestronniej niż w Swingu - zaznaczyłem wartości zmierzone miarką. Półka na bagaż podręczny nad silnikami wózka jest wykończona metalową płytką, co ma zapewne w zamierzeniu zwiększyć trwałość (na tym zdjęciu niestety zasłoniły ją leżące foldery)


Zdjęcie szpiegowskie - poprzecznica wózka bezosiowego, przechodząca tuż pod niską podłogą oraz cylindryczne elementy oparcia pudła na wózku. Na halach targowych co najmniej dwie firmy wystawiły tego rodzaju wózek bezosiowy.
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At the moment in M1 metro line there is implemented partial automation of the trains control. There are provided night test rides without passengers. After its implementation drivers will be only supervising correct operation of the system. Main purpose of the modernization is to increase v-max from 60 km/h to 80 km/h and frequency in the busy hours form 2:30 to 2:00. M1 will fully move to the new system on September the 1st. Then the frequency of the trains will be increased gradually.

http://warszawa.wyborcza.pl/warszawa...y-od-zimy.html
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More photos of the new short Pesa Jazz.

Surce: https://pl.wikinews.org/wiki/Pierwsz...porta%C5%BC%29
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