daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Subways and Urban Transport

Subways and Urban Transport Metros, subways, light rail, trams, buses and other local transport systems



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 29th, 2013, 06:41 PM   #481
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

...
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old January 31st, 2013, 03:56 PM   #482
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Yesterday's
Train stall in tunnel caused panic


A train prepares to enter the Mount Royal tunnel at the Canora station in the Town of Mount Royal area of Montreal on Wednesday, January 30, 2013.
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 7th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #483
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Yesterday's
Locomotive dispute could stall Train de l’Est


A sign showing the future site of a Gare de l'Est commuter train station in Mascouche, north of Montreal Thursday May 10, 2012. It appears the long-awaited commuter line may be further delayed.
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th, 2013, 12:56 AM   #484
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5733

can Orange Line be transformed into a loop?
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th, 2013, 02:05 AM   #485
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Yes, indeed it can be. The authorities still 'wish' to turn it into one, into the type shaped like a teacup, with its stubby 'handle'.
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 10th, 2013, 08:02 AM   #486
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5733

it looks like a bottle or a devil with the yellow line its tail. I guess the University Sherbrooke is the devil's tail???
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 15th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #487
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

2 days ago
Groups want cheaper transit for the poor


Anti-poverty groups on Wednesday launched a campaign for cheaper STM fares for the disadvantaged.
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 15th, 2013, 07:24 PM   #488
krnboy1009
Registered User
 
krnboy1009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 1,661
Likes (Received): 169

Is there any chance more of the commuter rail line could be electrified?
krnboy1009 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 15th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #489
ssiguy2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 5,404
Likes (Received): 856

Does Montreal actually have any Metro under construction right now or set to begin construction this year?
ssiguy2 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 15th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #490
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Thwarting electrification is as regular as ever round these parts...heck, even a local daily denies our own whereabouts round here, coz the following blunder of theirs is now well beyond their first one:
Quote:
Originally Posted by trainrover View Post
We fools here must appear less deserving of the real deal yet more so of the endless gossiping.

Maybe try skimming the prior headlines here, their corresponding stories try targetting what you yourselves are wondering...I rather recant viably valid progress, pardon me.
__________________
.
hee hee
.

Last edited by trainrover; February 15th, 2013 at 09:32 PM.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2013, 08:26 AM   #491
city_thing
Put it in your mouth
 
city_thing's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne.
Posts: 7,128
Likes (Received): 883

Montreal (from Google Maps, at least) seems to have a large motorway network for a city of its size. Are there plans to extend those rather than expanding the metro system?

Considering 4 million people live in 'Greater Montreal', it's very North American to see it have such a huge motorway network in comparison to Melbourne which also has 4 million people and much less motorways (though a far bigger rail network).
__________________
Calling occupants of interplanetary craft...
city_thing no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #492
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Bottom arc of bypass ring autoroute opened just this winter.

Ten-year-long replacement of the region's most important interchange keeps being postponed.

Holding a design competition for an architectural marvel of a replacement of a 50-year-old bridge here that happens to be the country's busiest is being proposed ... like the interchange, it too is tall and disintegrating, falling down quicker than was thought, plus still no necessary commitment forthcoming on equipping the 10-lane structure with rapid transit (current one has 5⅝ lanes).

The state of any clamouring for beefing up the ridiculously appaling public transit measures to be in place during their construction is merely at a murmur.

As for anglophones here, our most pressing issue is proving to be having the city's transit operator's language charter created wherein English be half its legacy
__________________
.
hee hee
.

Last edited by trainrover; February 16th, 2013 at 05:17 PM.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #493
Woonsocket54
PC LOAD LETTER
 
Woonsocket54's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Millinocket, Maine
Posts: 5,634
Likes (Received): 5733

Quote:
Originally Posted by city_thing View Post
it's very North American
I wonder why
Woonsocket54 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 01:06 AM   #494
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Of the country's three largest cities, Montreal's the most criss-crossed by autoroutes, while Quebec City -- supposedly the oldest New world settlement on the continent -- has comparably the most autoroutes for a city around this country. The three largest cities keep being reported by nationwide news as ranking in the worst five cities on the continent for commute times and rush-hour traffic jams, Vancouver being the worst of all of them.
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 05:35 AM   #495
bayviews
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,535
Likes (Received): 51

Quote:
Originally Posted by trainrover View Post
Of the country's three largest cities, Montreal's the most criss-crossed by autoroutes, while Quebec City -- supposedly the oldest New world settlement on the continent -- has comparably the most autoroutes for a city around this country. The three largest cities keep being reported by nationwide news as ranking in the worst five cities on the continent for commute times and rush-hour traffic jams, Vancouver being the worst of all of them.
If one recalls, Montreal's extensive autoroute network dates mostly back to the era of Mayor Jean Drapeu (or someone like that) who was like the Bob Moses of Montreal? But he also built most of the Montreal Metro
bayviews no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 06:57 AM   #496
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

Some saw him as a crusty lawyer bent on sterilizing town; others, a godfairy at deflating racketeers
__________________
.
hee hee
.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #497
Nouvellecosse
~ Mysterious Entity ~
 
Nouvellecosse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Halifax, N.S.
Posts: 4,446
Likes (Received): 313

Quote:
Originally Posted by city_thing View Post
Montreal (from Google Maps, at least) seems to have a large motorway network for a city of its size. Are there plans to extend those rather than expanding the metro system?

Considering 4 million people live in 'Greater Montreal', it's very North American to see it have such a huge motorway network in comparison to Melbourne which also has 4 million people and much less motorways (though a far bigger rail network).
A far bigger rail network? Doesn't it only have commuter trains?
__________________
.
.
I always think of a new type of cologne brand when I see your name

"Nouvellecosse, by Calvin Klein. Take on the world!"

- MysticMcGoo
Nouvellecosse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 10:28 PM   #498
Nouvellecosse
~ Mysterious Entity ~
 
Nouvellecosse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Halifax, N.S.
Posts: 4,446
Likes (Received): 313

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woonsocket54 View Post
Montreal Gazette
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...014/story.html
Quote:
Trudeau airport considers elevated train shuttle
By Andy Riga, Gazette Transportation Reporter May 4, 2012 9:37 PM

MONTREAL - Montreal’s airport authority is going back to the drawing board on its long-discussed train shuttle between Trudeau airport and downtown.

Its latest proposal: an elevated light-rapid transit system running along Highway 20 and the Ville Marie Expressway, perhaps arriving downtown in a new dedicated station, Aéroports de Montréal chief executive James Cherry said Thursday.

But the project is at a very preliminary stage, only a fraction of the required funding is in place and it’s unclear when or if it will be built.

The train would be modelled after Vancouver’s Canada Line, an automated driverless system that connects downtown to Vancouver International Airport and the city of Richmond. It opened in 2009. Cost: $2 billion.

Cherry said Montreal’s train would be cheaper because the line would be shorter and it would not involve the tunnel-boring required in Vancouver. But it’s too early to provide even a preliminary price tag, he added.

It will, however, be more expensive than the airport’s previous proposal – a $700 million train along Canadian National tracks, arriving at Central Station downtown.

So far, $200 million in government funding is in place for an airport train. It was promised by Quebec in 2010.

Speaking to reporters after Aéroports de Montréal’s annual meeting, Cherry said his studies indicate an airport train would be used by 10,000 passengers per day. But he said it’s premature to discuss the precise route or the location of a downtown station.

The airport authority, a private, non-profit company, started working on the shuttle in 2006, when it teamed up with the Agence métropolitaine de transport to come up with a joint project that would serve both airport travellers and West Island commuters.

By 2009, the airport and the AMT, Montreal’s commuter train authority, were declaring a joint train project could be in place by 2015.

But in 2010, the airport and the AMT went their separate ways. They could not agree on a route – the AMT wanted Lucien L’Allier station to be the downtown terminus, while the airport was set on using Central Station.

At that point, the airport said it would go it alone. It would build its shuttle along CN tracks, with a private partner operating the train.

But Cherry said that project was abandoned late last year due to CN’s conditions.

CN would only allow its right of way to be used if the railway could build the rail lines, control the trains and maintain the network, he said. Meanwhile, the airport would have had to “bear all associated risks, which is contrary to our business model, ” Cherry said.

He said it became clear a project with CN would be more complex and expensive than originally thought.

So the airport has been quietly studying an elevated train that would run on land owned by the airport, the Quebec government and the city of Montreal. Cherry said he will present some details to officials from all levels of government in a few weeks.

If funding is secured, it will take 36 to 48 months to put the train in place, he said. The project would first require a provincial environmental review. It’s unclear how long that would take.

This review would not have been required had the train gone on CN’s federally regulated right of way, Cherry said.

Since 2006, the airport has spent about $3.5 million on train-shuttle studies, he said.

The delays have not dampened Cherry’s enthusiasm for an airport train. “The need is greater than ever,” he said.

West Island commuter trains could one day share part of the airport train’s infrastructure, he said.

It’s unclear how that would work since the Quebec government is spending $22 million on engineering studies to improve West Island commuter train service along an existing Canadian Pacific corridor. Those studies are to be completed by year-end.

[email protected]

twitter.com/andyriga
© Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette
Personally, I wonder if it isn't time Lucien L’Allier station is closed. If/when electrification for the West island commuter line is completed (perhaps at the same as the airport service) they'd all be able to use Central Station, which is a better terminus anyway, imo. Yes, it's a slightly longer route having to detour around Griffintown and back up into downtown, but Lucien L’Allier sucks and it's more convenient to have the services consolidated into one place.
__________________
.
.
I always think of a new type of cologne brand when I see your name

"Nouvellecosse, by Calvin Klein. Take on the world!"

- MysticMcGoo
Nouvellecosse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #499
trainrover
:-x
 
trainrover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,787
Likes (Received): 738

But being submerged, noxious loco diesel exhaust pervades the vast warren down there. Central's traction for a few miles around for most departures/arrivals was limited to electrics for its first 20 years of operation. I forget which authority abolished the moratorium. Lucien L'Allier rail stn is supposed to be retrofitted, a multi-platform canopy was supposedly being mused.

For the sake of comparison, Quebec City is the American one around this country for all its expressways. The rest of them kind of come close although Winnipeg has none.
__________________
.
hee hee
.

Last edited by trainrover; February 17th, 2013 at 11:30 PM.
trainrover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 11:57 PM   #500
Nouvellecosse
~ Mysterious Entity ~
 
Nouvellecosse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Halifax, N.S.
Posts: 4,446
Likes (Received): 313

Another option would be to have a light rail line serving the airport, traveling along the same route as the current Hudson line from the airport to the western part of downtown, leaving the rail corridor around either Avenue Atwater or Rue du Fort, then traveling in a ROW on Rene Levesque through downtown. It could either turn up Berri and terminate @ Berri-UQAM station, or turn up Bleury and provide service to Avenue due Parc.
__________________
.
.
I always think of a new type of cologne brand when I see your name

"Nouvellecosse, by Calvin Klein. Take on the world!"

- MysticMcGoo
Nouvellecosse no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
canada, metro, montreal, quebec

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium