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Old June 4th, 2005, 10:43 PM   #1
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Advantages / disadvantages for living in your city

What do you like best about living in your city? No place if perfect, so what do you not like? Please be honest.

I don't live anywhere near a city, so i don't think i'm qualified to answer
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Old June 4th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #2
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Advantages - it offers just about everything you could possibly want from a city.

Disadvantages - it's bloody expensive! And the tube, although it covers a huge area, is very unreliable, with constant delays and breakdowns.
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Old June 5th, 2005, 02:38 AM   #3
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disadvantages ( for me) :
- too many traffic jams , it's a nightmare to drive in and around Paris
- not enough large green areas inside the town
- a brisk lifestyle, too stressful
- the weather : it's not excatly bad but could be better .....with a bit less clouds !!
- cost of living : expansive rents ans sometimes outrageaous prices of shops in some touristy areas.
- gentrification : some very charming areas are completely losing their original population and soul
- dirtyness : there's a been quite a debate here about the deterioration of cleanliness over the last years due to reorganisation of cleaning services. More could be done.
- you have to drive a long way if you want to see natural landscape of outstanding beauty. ( even if a lot of araes around Paris are quite nice, bu no mountain, sea, or completly natural landscape at hand )
- the Parisians : the most funny thing about a Parisian is that he often talks about the Parisans as if he was not Parisain himself !, probably because they fear being associated with their reputation !! After 9 years in Paris, I have to say I'm a Parisian ... What I would most reproach with them is their difficulty "to get to them" and the fact they moan too much ! ( but they re very engaging too..hi hi hi)

Advantages :
- network of transport : whether to go in town (buses, tramways, rer, subways, taxis, ..) or to go somewhere else (high speed train leads you in 2 hours in Lyon, in 3 hours on the mediterranean sea fo ex) you have the feeling to be close to all of western europe
- cultural vitality : city life is vibrant,festivals, events, nightlife, concerts , etcc....
- a city that reveres & loves culture and arts
- comopolitan and international atmosphere (though you don't really have large cultural ghettos)
- plenty of economic opportunities (nearly all industries and services are represented )
- good direction : after several years of 'conservative' governance, the new mayor is driving dynamically the city and trying to boost its image, attractiveness, competitiveness, and quality of life ( don't expect a lot skyscrapers however...
- open minded people
- the city is still full of small quality shops near you (delicious bakeries,pâtisseries, charcuteries, etc...)
- the diversity of neighborhoods, a lot to discover in and around town and a city that never ceases to amaze you by its beauty.
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Old June 5th, 2005, 04:53 AM   #4
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- Constant traffic jams along motorways, highways and main arteries
- Train arrives late due to incompetance
- Expensive housing especially for a population of only 4.2 million. Especially when you life around North Shore, Northern Beaches and Eastern Suburbs. Starts from $1 million +
- Lack of infrastructure projects such as rail and road
- Urban sprawl. Most rely on cars to work
- Hospitals are on red light situation
- Lack of water. Drought in Australia 3 years straight
- Nightlife only visable around the city centre

- The harbour...cools the temperature down during hot summer
- Has 169 beaches
- Harbour getting cleaner. Better for marine life. Whales arrive for a visit as a pit-stop
- Buoyant tourism industry for many years
- National Parks and widelife surrounding the city. Blue Mountains, Kuringai National Park, Royal National Park, Lane Cove National Park, Sydney National park
- Cosmopolitan lifestyle. Very relaxing culture (weekender)
“Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the future.” - John F Kennedy
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Old June 5th, 2005, 05:12 AM   #5
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calm, actually safe, pleaseful, beautiful, lots of parks, nice squares, lots of excellent pubs and nightclubs, have everything I need.. I don't know, I just like living here.. but the main for sure is people, my friends, and the girls

weather always hot, the lowest temperature it can ever get is 8 C or 9 C, in 2 or 3 days of the entire year.. 99% of the year is always above 20 C.. but unstandable hot temperatures (like above 34 C) very rarely occurs, in 2 or 3 days of the year either..

other advantages:
this is a picture of one part of a huge place, just some miles from my city
Chapada dos Veadeiros land, Goias, Brazil

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Old June 5th, 2005, 10:00 PM   #6
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Vantaa, Finland:

-The only real international Airport in Finland is here
-Constant air traffic gives an international feel
-The airportcity Aviapolis (www.aviapolis.fi), the most attractive place for companies in the Helsinki metropolitan area
-Close to Helsinki and great public transport between Vantaa and the capital city
-Offers lots of both bautiful nature and historical countryside as well as some very nice residental areas.
-although most of the urban areas were built in the 60's-70's and after, they have throughout the years developed into really nice places.
-Lots of development and construction going on

-Bad reputation
-Economical broblems
-A few small areas with extremely bad reputation because of high crime rates in the past
-Divided into east and west, the public trasportation across the town needs a lot of improvement
-Huge areas of warehouses and logistics
-Air traffic noise puts limitations on planning of new areas
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Old June 5th, 2005, 10:28 PM   #7
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Zwolle, the netherlands 110.000 peoples

bad: nothing to do, lots of crime, unsafe tunnels
good: much green and space, and finnaly skyscrapers
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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:23 AM   #8
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-Relatively cheap compared to other major cities
-Quite vibrant for 4 million people
-efficient Public transportation
-Multicultural, yet has a strong fusion/tolerant culture
-Great educational institutions
-Vibrant economy (relative to other cities in Canada)

- Lacks natural beauty
- Nightlife not as big as I would like it to be
- Lack of large-scale late-night shopping/streetlife
- shovelling snow
- urban sprawl, lack of roads/PT in the burbs' (traffic jams)
- taxation levels
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Old June 6th, 2005, 03:36 AM   #9
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- really divided culturally. one part rich and white, from all around the world and country. the other parts either poor latino or poor black.
- protesters come and muck up everything in the city.
- traffic is TERRIBLE, and everywhere outside the city is sprawl.
- lots of the people here are political lackeys, and about as fun as a wet blanket.
- a lot of the people in the world hate what your city stands for, and you don't have anything to do with it.
- expensive

- I can walk or metro anywhere I need to be.
- lively neighborhoods
- embassies and museums have tons of free cultural events that you can attend.
- great river and bay nearby
- tons of people just out of college here, which happens to be my age.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 01:30 AM   #10
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Perth.. I like this city but it's far from perfect!

- small & isolated place, pretty much irrelevant in the global scheme of thing
- craving for attention
- lack the vibrancy
- population in general have conservative attitude, middle class pretense
- small base for employment growth, not much opportunity for those in the creative professions
- mediocre architecture especially in the suburbs..
- city too spread out..
- poor nightlife, late night shopping only one day a week
- few after hour activities in the city
- many rednecks around the city, usually catching public transport
- lots of anti-social behaviour; many hoons, idiots, teenage gangs (again idiots who love to glamorise violence)
- vandalism and property break-ins are common occurence
- poor public transport (rail system is improving but the bus system is terrible)
- few cultural facilities

- nice sunny weather
- cosy village atmosphere (eg. Fremantle, Subiaco, Leederville)
- very clean and orderly (probably the cleanest in Australia)
- slower pace of lifestyle
- generally high quality of life
- multi-cultural facet
- affordable accommodation
- well planned city, lots of open spaces
- new activity centers are emerging, becoming more vibrant
- endless leisure amenities
- natural attractions access to pristine beaches, river, bushes
- lots of sporting activities, for players and spectators
- high quality educational institutions
- a lot of young people, lots of energy
- good place to bring up kids (as long as they mix in with the right crowd)
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Old June 7th, 2005, 09:19 PM   #11
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-Very little mass transit in suburbs + few freeways in suburbs = awful traffic in suburbs.
-Decentralized office market (jobs are spread all over the place rather than in one "downtown") causing traffic everywhere and making a sensable trasit system very difficult to construct.
-Politicians often courting tourists rather than pleasing locals.
-Very expensive and getting far more expensive by the day.
-Large portions of the reqion require Spanish to conduct any kind of transaction.
-Humid/Hot/Rainy summers
-Uterly flat.
-Basically all of downtown is under construction with new towers going up everyday. Construction crews always clogging streets.
-Too many ultra-conservative old generation Cubans.
-City stagnated in the 80's and early 90's so we have a lot of catching up to do with public projects (parks, transit, roads...etc).

-Warm/Dry/Sunny Winters
-24 Hour City
-Great nightlife
-Very multicultural
-Lots of highrise urban living (If you can afford it)
-Beautiful natural environment that is still natural (Everglades + the only living Coral Reef in the US)
-Great beaches
-Great women
-Liberal and open minded
-Always something unusual happening
-You get to see people from all over the world.
-Topless sunbathing
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Old June 7th, 2005, 11:47 PM   #12
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-beautiful historic city center
-lots of bars
-very good education and healthcare facilities
-compact city: everything is reachable by foot or bike
-location in the middle of the Randstad area: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague, Utrecht and Schiphol International Airport all within 45 minutes of travel time. Through this also Europe is at your feet.
-safe. I never felt seriously threatened or unsafe in my city.

-just a little too small, sometimes citizens seem village-dwellers...
-no space left to build, the city is as good as full
-no large green area or park, you're never alone
-car-infrastructure is insufficient, it's always faster to leave or the city by bike then by car, sometimes even of foot!
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Old June 8th, 2005, 10:33 PM   #13
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- the sea and the various bays
- nightlife
- glamour
- beautiful women
- the 'spirit' of the city
- great colonial architecture
- cultural events
- multicultural with huge minority populations
- good public transport in terms of coverage, volume and frequency (trains 22 hours, cabs plentiful)
- safe city for everyone including women
- most cosmopolitan and progressive city in south asia
- the monsoons!! (an experience in itself, just a week away!)
- good nature spots nearby including a national park within city limits. besides beaches, mountains, lakes
- good links to the rest of the country and the world
- economic powerhouse of the region, so many jobs


- mostly infrastructural problems
- being part of a poor country means many slums
- rent control laws leading to poorly maintained buildings
- traffic on the road. poor travelling conditions in public transport during peak hours
- lack of green space at a local level
- poor waste management
- outdated coaches on railways
- could do with much better pavements
- too expensive in south asian terms for general living. in any terms for housing. a 220 sqm flat for over $1 million
- too many potholes after the monsoons
- poor civic sense in most people
- some of the beaches are really dirty
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Old June 10th, 2005, 06:14 AM   #14
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the history, the historical places
the museums
24 hour city
architecture of different epochs
the services like the metro are the cheapest in the country,
the cost of life is for all economic conditions
its huge and you find any kind of people
you find almost everything

the pollution, heavy traffic, crime
the uneducated people-i think these people are the cause of almost all our problems
the high rate of migration, so the city is growing in all directions, and not for good, these new populated areas are slums, especially in the north
the heat, today the weather was burning like hell, like never before but i think this is a global problem
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Old June 10th, 2005, 10:28 AM   #15
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Winchester and Bath - cities 100 miles apart with exactly the same philosophy

Expensive (as with anywhere in south England)
Conservative to the extreme...they almost had a demo at the idea of pubs being allowed to open past 11pm and order all clubs to be underground. (oh and up to a $200 fine if caught by police drinking on streets)
Building is seen as a crime against the city...imagine a whole city with views like prince Charles...aargh
In the summer tourists everywhere - especially old American couples and Japanese schools

Nice climate
Little or no poverty
Old Historic buildings everywhere - Bath is a UNESCO Heritage City, Winchester was Englands Capital in the 9th century
Easy links to London without all the nastiness of a big city

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Old June 10th, 2005, 04:52 PM   #16
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Lisbon (Portugal)

bad traffic
lots of tags which screw city centre
lots of new constructions going on in de suburbs
no high speed train (yet) connecting spain
lacks of green spaces&parks in de city centre
lack of real skyscrapers
lack of public transports

great weather
great cultural life
great malls
awesome nightlife, party town
great melting pot ( mainly from portuguese speaking countries like brazil, angola, mozambique etc and eastern europe)
lots of beaches just 40 min from de city centre by train (cascais line), so in summer gets realy nice
Lisbon beauty and boulevards preety unique and original
Lisbon light
young ppl are realy nice to foreigners,and are extremely open to other cultures
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Old June 10th, 2005, 09:05 PM   #17
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+ Offers so much
+ Cosmpolitan
+ Mix of old and new

- Some areas still in poverty
- Transport, at times (mainly tube)
- Expensive
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Old June 11th, 2005, 05:34 AM   #18
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- Good Lifestyle.
- Clean.
- High Standard of Life.
- Nice Skyline.
- Lots of Natural Area's in and around the city (Kings Park, Hills, Beach's, Swan's River etc)
- Affordable.
- Busy CBD (in the day at least)
- Lots of open space.
- Sporting Facilties.
- Good Education Facilties.
- Fast, Clean Trains.
- Reliable Public Transport.
- Fremantle & Subiaco (medium density, vibrant areas)
- Nice Suburbs.

- Isolation.
- Reliability on a freeway for the city to move.
- Hoons (Although not a huge problem, just annoying)
- Poor Nightlife.
- To many suburbs.
- Only a small PT system.
- No light night shopping (only on one night a week)
- Dead CBD after hours.
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Old June 12th, 2005, 02:27 AM   #19
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San Antonio TX USA

Insanely cheap properties, for $300k tops you can have a mansion in the best section of town.
No harsh winters means no snow to deal with
Get a lot of sunshine
The Riverwalk is really nice and provides for great nightlife and a great atmosphere downtown at night.

Very intense heat and humidity
No real winters
We lack quite a few stores that bigger cities (dallas, Houston) have, a disadvantage if you are looking for something in particular from those stores. For example if you wanted to go buy some Gucci shoes and then a Lamborghini, you couldn't...
A very sad looking skyline with no skyscrapers
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Old June 13th, 2005, 01:25 AM   #20
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Here is on NYC.

-Very prolific city.
-Has the infastructure to get around.
-Almost every major franchise in the US you can think of is here.
-Has numerous theaters and sports facilities for entertainment.
-It has gotten cleaner.
-Crime has been lowered since the last decade.
-Like LA/London, it too has several centers.
-It's resturaunts are also prolific.
-A number of places are open 24 hours a day.

-Rent is one of the highest in the US and in some cases the world.
-This is not a city you would to go around with a car, b/c it could take a while before you will be able to find a parking spot w/o having to pay for it.
-Another reason is b/c of traffic.
-Unfortunately, terrorist know about this city also.
-Some parts of the city are not as major (ie Staten Island and The Bronx).
-Most places will not you let you use their restrooms for free.
-There are still a lot of homeless being around.
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