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Old August 21st, 2010, 09:10 AM   #721
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Taking me hours to go through all the materials but nothing's really standing out so far...
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Old August 21st, 2010, 10:39 AM   #722
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Hi everybody, I'm new to this forum. I'm also a bit disappointed by the render. I expected something more dense. According to the new pattern, it looks that they've planned to do more land reclamation in this area, am I right ?
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Old August 21st, 2010, 04:37 PM   #723
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According to the new pattern, it looks that they've planned to do more land reclamation in this area, am I right ?
No, it won't happen as it is now restricted by law to do further reclamation.
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I must say that upon initial glance this is rather disappointing -- particularly in comparison with the original design from Foster & Partners.
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Old August 21st, 2010, 06:32 PM   #725
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I have to agree as well. However I particular like the new Normal Foster design, Hong Kong lacked a green scenery, with this design Hong Kong will have both green scenery and skyscrapers.
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20 08 2010 TVB新聞頭條 西九文化區三個設計方案


20 08 2010 ATV新聞頭條 西九文化區三個設計方案


西九文化區3藍圖出籠 諮詢公眾@ Now TV
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Old August 21st, 2010, 08:58 PM   #727
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西九1.5億買3圖則 公眾任揀


【明報專訊】西九文化區3個概念規劃方案昨日出台,諮詢市民意見。3家顧問公司的主要賣點包括﹕城市中的公園及環保設施、具本土特色的斜街小巷海上浮台、獨特地標建築環迴大吊橋(見圖)。據了解,西九管理局支付3家顧問的費用合共約1.5億元,即納稅人為每個方案付出的成本達5000萬元。


西九1.5億買3圖則 公眾任揀


【明報專訊】西九文化區3個概念規劃方案昨日出台,諮詢市民意見。3家顧問公司的主要賣點包括﹕城市中的公園及環保設施、具本土特色的斜街小巷海上浮台、獨特地標建築環迴大吊橋(見圖)。據了解,西九管理局支付3家顧問的費用合共約1.5億元,即納稅人為每個方案付出的成本達5000萬元。


相關即時新聞
西九管理局:不怕變三不像(11:28)
今日報章頭條摘要(07:45)


西九管理局主席唐英年強調,今次諮詢不是一場零和比賽,雖然最終會有一個方案成為主體方案,但它可以吸納另外兩個方案的亮點,集各家精華,錘煉成一份理想藍圖;西九不會追求煙花綻放的燦爛,而是細水長流的有機成長。


選定再付顧問費


據了解,在選出主體方案後,管理局還要支付一筆額外的顧問費,讓中選公司把概念設計變成具體的發展藍圖,在2012年前提交城規會審理。3個概念設計的版權都屬於西九管理局。


3家顧問公司昨在會展3G展廳,向多名西九管理局諮詢委員會委員介紹文化區的概念圖則。由英國著名建築師Norman Foster的公司Foster + Partners提出的設計,主題是「城市中的公園」,計劃種5000棵樹,其高級合伙人Spencer de Grey表示,這個大型公園可以在樹蔭下進行不同種類活動,把生活融入文化區。Foster今次的綠色設計,與數年前西九文化區首次招標時以巨型天幕作地標建築明顯不同。


許李嚴建築師事務有限公司執行董事嚴迅奇就以《清明上河圖》表達其主題為「文化經脈」的設計,表示西九文化區會像卷軸般,由東向西慢慢伸展,由北向南分為城市帶、文化帶和綠化帶,同時容納大量不同的市民活動,就像《清明上河圖》展示的內容。區內交通採用電車,嚴迅奇說﹕「用番香港舊電車,有親切感和香港味道。」


OMA合伙人Rem Koolhaas是北京CCTV大樓(當地人稱為大褲衩)的設計師,他形容自己看到香港的村落、園林、街道風貌,所以把西九文化區切割成3個「村落」,西邊是劇場村,中間是中村,東邊則是M+視覺藝術村。OMA建議,在西隧入口對開海面興建一條環迴大吊橋,連接柯士甸道、佐敦道及西隧,成為地標建築;吊橋以避風塘長堤為橋躉,毋須填海。但Koolhaas說,如因政治經濟等原因未能興建吊橋,則會改設海濱大道。


3家顧問都在設計中融入大量綠化空間,但方法各有不同,Foster以樹木數量取勝,形成海濱森林;OMA打造城市農田,讓公眾種植蔬菜和山草藥;許李嚴則炮製綠化斜坡,讓公園綠化帶全方位看到維港海景。


唐英年拒透露預算開支


對於市民最關心的興建預算及財務安排問題,唐英年表示會確保量入為出,會深入審視及作財務評估,但他始終不肯透露3個方案分別的預算收支。


西九文化區用地為40公頃,2008年立法會撥款216億元注入西九文化區管理局,包括多個核心文化藝術設施、商場酒店和住宅。管理局設計了厚達15頁的問卷,讓市民就各個方案的設施、概念作出評分和表達意見。市民可到會展中心觀看模型,即場發表意見,或上網看介紹短片後填寫問卷(網址﹕http://www.wkcda.hk)。


西九諮詢網頁


http://http://www.wkcdauthority.hk


三大設計短片


http://inews.mingpao.com
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the last is the best, it is what hong kong needs...
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 08:41 AM   #731
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New to the forum.
Nice to see some interesting and varied plans.
I've been banging my head, looked all over the internet and the WKCD sites to get a contact for anyone to approach about exhibiting a museum at WKCD. I thought that one of the biggest difficulties about starting a new museum was the lack of exhibits.
How does one contact the illusive WKCDA's Museum Committee
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 09:37 AM   #732
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1,800 flock to see plans for cultural hub
22 August 2010
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More than 1,800 people flocked to see the three master plans for the West Kowloon Cultural District, on public display for the first time yesterday.

Representatives from the three design teams addressed questions from architects, planners and environmentalists at a forum at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre, first venue of the exhibition of designs which will rove around the city for the next three months. Representatives will also meet members of the public.

The exhibition drew 1,821 visitors yesterday, according to the West Kowloon Cultural District Authority's count. Models, videos and graphics were displayed to present the three plans designed by renowned architects - Norman Foster from Britain, Rem Koolhaas from the Netherlands, and Rocco Yim Sen-kee from Hong Kong. At the end of the tour, people can give their feedback by filling out a 15-page questionnaire or submit their opinions via the project's official website.

One visitor, Kong Kin-wah, 50, a manager at a printing company, said he viewed the 2004-5 exhibition of three original proposals presented by property developers.

"At that time it was obviously a business project," he said. "The bidders dedicated much of their plans to real estate development. This time there are fewer conspicuously commercial elements."

The government later scrapped its original requirements, which included a huge canopy, and relaunched consultations.

Wong Ka-yee, 25, a bank officer, said: "Overall I am quite satisfied with this exhibition. But I would like to know more about the government's idea on transport connections to the area. Each designer has his own suggestion but we don't know if it is feasible. I think it is better for the government to lay out a plan."

Architect and West Kowloon resident Howard Li, in his thirties, said none of the three plans did much to attract him to visit the cultural district despite its proximity to his home: "I expected there to be more recreation facilities," he said.

Guests at the two-hour forum raised various questions, ranging from the use of lights, the effects of wind speed on proposed green features, to the retirement plans of the three prominent architects.

Graham Sheffield, chief executive officer of the authority, said he was happy with the response.

"I am delighted to see the huge level of interest shown by the audience, especially the fact that many young people have come to express their views."

Yim, who created the winning design for the new government headquarters, said the initial responses were encouraging.

"Judging from the visits today, people seem more enthusiastic than when the Tamar development project proposals were showcased. But of course, it is only the first day and we have yet to see how the three-month consultation goes."

The public consultation runs until November 20.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 06:30 AM   #733
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I agree with "el palmesano", the last one is the best. I can already imagine myself strolling in the park facing Victoria harbour at night.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 02:25 PM   #734
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`No mishmash on cultural hub'
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The final shape of the long-awaited West Kowloon cultural hub will not be a mishmash of incoherent elements, Chief Secretary for Administration Henry Tang Ying-yen argued yesterday.

Also trying to talk up what should be a waterfront showpiece was Stephen Cheung Yan-leung, chairman of the consultation panel of the West Kowloon Cultural District Authority.

Cheung, in particular, faced a torrid time at the first public forum on the project, with people raising doubts over a plan that sets aside one-fifth of the gross floor area for residential use.

He insisted that the one-fifth - or 145,000 square meters - that will go on homes will not turn the hub into a property project. The remarks flew as the three-month consultation period on three concepts for the 40-hectare harborfront site - from London-based firm Foster + Partners, Rotterdam's Office for Metropolitan Architecture and local Rocco Design Architects - entered a third day.

Tang, chairman of the board of the authority, said: "We will choose only one design, and I believe it will be very organized and complete as only one team will follow up the project from start to finish."

But he did not rule out incorporating bright ideas from the other two designs into the development.

Such ideas may involve green facilities, transport and drainage, he said, "but it will not make it messy."

Adding weight, Graham Sheffield, chief executive of the authority, said he believes the selected team can maintain architectural integrity.

Rocco Yim Sen-kee, executive director of Rocco Design Architects, said: "In theory, the three plans can be integrated. But the one doing it has to have good judgment to decide what is most essential and find the best ways to incorporate the design of other firms into the final plan. He cannot simply add features of other plans into his own."

Visiting the culture-consultation facility at the convention and exhibition center again, Tang also said the authority will make sure the project remains within the HK$21.6 billion budget approved by the Legislative Council's Finance Committee in 2008.

But some of his audience had nagging doubts about those private homes, with questions including whether the project could be a financial success if no flats were built.

"This is not a property project," Cheung said. "Hong Kong people dislike buildings that create a wall-like effect. No such kind of building will be in our project."

Also, he said, "commercial, catering and retailing facilities can generate income to help sustain art and cultural activities."

Yim added: "I support the view that there should be some residential buildings to make the district vibrant.

"What I hope is to avoid flats from falling into the hands of speculators. Flats can also be regarded as artworks. They are not necessarily luxury flats.

"They can be flats with restricted prices or - boldly speaking - they can be Home Ownership Scheme flats."

After the forum, Rem Koolhaas, who leads the Office for Metropolitan Architecture, said subsidized housing could indeed be integrated into the project.

All the three plans unveiled last Friday place an emphasis on open space and trees while incorporating local elements.
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That outdoor performance venue in the OMA proposal looks very nice. At least Hong Kong could have a summer music festival. Is there another city with the size of Hong Kong that does not have a decent summer festival.
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It's too hot to be outdoors during the summer for an open-air festival though. We have plenty of outdoor street markets on the other hand!

I do agree a shaded green space can successfully be an open-air venue though.
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It's too hot to be outdoors during the summer for an open-air festival though. We have plenty of outdoor street markets on the other hand!

I do agree a shaded green space can successfully be an open-air venue though.
They could do it in September. But an open air venue would be amazing. The only big indie festival of Hong Kong moved to Macau.

On a side note. Almost across from this on the island side a great new park has opened up. I guess it's called the Sun Yat Sen-Park as it features a large statue of the great man. It's very lively already.
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They could do it in September. But an open air venue would be amazing. The only big indie festival of Hong Kong moved to Macau.

On a side note. Almost across from this on the island side a great new park has opened up. I guess it's called the Sun Yat Sen-Park as it features a large statue of the great man. It's very lively already.
Oh ... by the Western Harbour Crossing? I'm not aware of that park. I have to get there one day.

Or is this the new park above the underground storm drainage reservoir that recently opened?
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Oh ... by the Western Harbour Crossing? I'm not aware of that park. I have to get there one day.

Or is this the new park above the underground storm drainage reservoir that recently opened?
It's right next to the Western sports centre right on the waterfront. I like it a lot. There is a nice path along the water where people are running as well. The views on Kowloon including the Stonecutters bridge are very nice.

They are still building the new swimming pool complex next door.
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Push for fund to lure long-run foreign shows
24 August 2010
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The arts hub authority should set up a fund to invest in foreign arts productions that will include the West Kowloon arts hub when touring Asia, a consultant report suggests.

This is because some of the large-capacity venues will need long-running shows to make them viable, the consultants say.

For example, the capacities of the two big theatres - 2,200 and 1,900 seats - exceed the requirements of many local arts groups, which typically need 800 to 1,000 seats for each show.

These theatres should be used to test the market for long-run shows, such as Broadway-style musicals, suggests AMS, a United States-based consultant, which drafted the market analysis on West Kowloon performing arts venues with audit firm Deloitte. The report was released last Friday.

"The West Kowloon Cultural District Authority would require a source of capital managed by the ... governing organisation for investments in commissioning worthwhile productions with an agreement that they would tour to Hong Kong and specifically to the West Kowloon venues," the report said.

The authority, in doing so, also had to be aware of potential conflicts that could arise between such overseas commercial hirers and local users with regard to schedules and priority, the consultants said.

However, the consultants, who received a fee of HK$1.65 million for the study, were unable to collect enough first-hand data when inquiring into the needs and tastes of visitors from the mainland and overseas.

Only 13 online questionnaires were received after the consultants posted the survey on the Hong Kong Tourism Board website from October to December last year.

Chinese University cultural studies professor Desmond Hui Cheuk-kuen said a promotion fund would be a way to increase use of the arts hub venues, but the aid should not be restricted to foreign productions.

Hui, an adviser to Rocco Yim's team, said West Kowloon should build a strong production and education arm if it is to distinguish itself from cities in the Pearl River Delta.
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