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Old January 19th, 2017, 12:12 AM   #3201
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Old January 19th, 2017, 12:16 AM   #3202
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Just love this project and the beautiful Calatrava museum that came with it.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 02:57 AM   #3203
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There is continuity there though. The building has always stood there and there is a philosophy behind a temple that is both old and new - It encourages a Zen mindset where something is and isn't at the same time. there is no history of Zen where most of these reconstructions are being built. Building a fake historic building after years of absence is very very different. I'm not saying it won't be enjoyed once it's rebuilt. I
I'm saying it has lost the qualities of authenticity and honesty.
Not only that. Every material has It's characteristic, and ages in some way. Wood can age in very interesting fashion, and rebuilding the building chages It's characteristic and looks.

[IMG]http://previews.*****.com/images/elenathewise/elenathewise0708/elenathewise070800262/1526451-Row-of-crooked-medieval-houses-in-Rennes-France--Stock-Photo-rennes.jpg[/IMG]

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Old January 19th, 2017, 03:09 PM   #3204
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I know what you mean. Although I am not personally involved in this project (I'm enthusiast) I suppose that the original fragments of the rosette will be exhibited in the museum's collection of stone monuments. Or some other appropriate place. This rosette is, I suppose facsimile reconstruction of the original.

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he city lodge Through the arch to the square, the nearest possible
Thank you Then it's been done 100% correctly, in my point of view. The upper layer of the church (which was removed) is so less worthy than the Romanic one, that there's no doubt the intervention made sense.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #3205
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Not only that. Every material has It's characteristic, and ages in some way. Wood can age in very interesting fashion, and rebuilding the building chages It's characteristic and looks.

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But when important building is destroyed or lost, no matter the reason, it is better to have it again through reconstruction then to forget it forever.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #3206
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^ Indeed. Besides that, even reconstructed half-timbered (Fachwerk) houses look awesome when reconstructed. Just look at Hildesheim, Brunswick, Eisenach or Frankfurt. They start to bend after just some decades, anyway, which gives back some of the old charme.


Wonderful places like the Römerberg in Frankfurt shouldn't be forgotten forever, just because some stupid war or urban planner wiped it out. Luckily this was reconstructed in the 1980s (now extended with the famed Dom-Römer project):


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...g_Ostzeile.jpg

Also a great revitalisation. Wanna know what "contemporary interpretations" of the 1950s did in the neighbourhood (let's not even talk about Technisches Rathaus)? Well, here you go:


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:...Roemerberg.jpg


I'll go for reconstructed houses any day. It's an oldtown, after all.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 10:06 PM   #3207
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Old January 20th, 2017, 11:38 AM   #3208
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Great colours in the opera theatre! Tbilisi should continue their high quality restorations across the country.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 08:33 PM   #3209
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Old January 21st, 2017, 08:52 PM   #3210
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Old January 21st, 2017, 09:21 PM   #3211
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I'll go for reconstructed houses any day. It's an oldtown, after all.
I'd go with that as well, if reconstruction is faithful.
Also general public has to be informed that this is just a reconstruction (like it is in Warsaw for example). Otherwise we end up with stuff like that:







Afterwar socrealist architecture in old town of Gdańsk, in this case commieblocks which are stylized convincingly enough for most people to belive they are actual 300-500 years-old tenements. In other words you can say that tourists go to see something that is only an incomplete facade (literally) of what it used to be, thinking it is the real deal, while it is not at all:



Most will be satisfied, but most are satisfied with autotune and playback.
From what I can see something simliar is happening in Dresden right now.

This is just not right. Either you go with real reconstruction and are proud of that or give a historic flavor to contemporary architecture, which is also risky, but can be done right:



Also Gdańsk.


Transparency and authenticity in city's structure and architecure should be equally important as pleasant looks. Or even more. War losses or shift in urban ideology is also part of the history of specific place and shouldn't and even cannot be wiped out so easily as buildings or streets. It can be fixed, but it has to be done right and you cannot pretend that nothing has happened.
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 12:37 AM   #3212
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 12:45 AM   #3213
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 01:00 AM   #3214
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Wijnhavenkwartier, The Hague, Netherlands

From former ministry building to apartments, retail and university.

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Old January 22nd, 2017, 02:02 AM   #3215
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Another devastation and this time the original building is probably lost forever
Well at least it's not tacky, just regular '10 stuff...
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To my eye as a American the photos of Gdansk look quite nice. Maybe the buildings could use some paint but otherwise it looks quite charming. You are so lucky in Europe to have the amazing architecture that you do. We have nothing like this in the US and nothing even close in Florida.
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 11:44 AM   #3217
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To my eye as a American the photos of Gdansk look quite nice.
But this is exactly what I'm talking about. For most it looks ok enough, especially if they are not familiar with local architecture.
Look once again at last paragraph from my post.
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Most will be satisfied, but most are satisfied with autotune and playback.
From what I can see something simliar is happening in Dresden right now.

This is just not right. Either you go with real reconstruction and are proud of that or give a historic flavor to contemporary architecture, which is also risky, but can be done right:

Transparency and authenticity in city's structure and architecure should be equally important as pleasant looks. Or even more. War losses or shift in urban ideology is also part of the history of specific place and shouldn't and even cannot be wiped out so easily as buildings or streets. It can be fixed, but it has to be done right and you cannot pretend that nothing has happened.
Indeed. The "reconstruction" of Dresden is one of the most horrible things I've ever seen. Every building looks so plastic, and prefabricated, it's unreal.
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Indeed. The "reconstruction" of Dresden is one of the most horrible things I've ever seen. Every building looks so plastic, and prefabricated, it's unreal.
I highly doubt you have ever been to Dresden or you would not make such a statement. The buildings in Dresden are built with world renowned German quality. The Frauenkirche is supurb and there are a lot of other very well done reconstructions like the British Hotel that even incorporated elements from the original. I live in Florida and have been to DisneyWorld and trust me Dresden and Disney have nothing in common. Once the buildings age a little they will be absolutely fine. I, for one, applaud what the Germans are doing in their country. It is a gift for future generations.
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