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Old February 3rd, 2011, 07:52 PM   #561
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Old February 6th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #562
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last two I didn´t understand.

why did they change the original street lights and put ugly ones instead?

the castle looks plastic now so shiny with instense colours.

anyways is amazing how fast Poland is recovering its heritage! congrats
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Old February 16th, 2011, 08:01 PM   #563
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Old March 30th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #564
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Warsaw

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this is how it will look after revitalization, which is just starting:

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Old March 30th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #565
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Old April 1st, 2011, 01:40 AM   #566
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Might I ask the Polish forumers here a more in-depth, technical question? How are these restorations (which are stunning btw) funded?

Our main trouble with historical restorations is that the owners of the historical buldings are generally dirt poor due to social upheaveal and movement during communist times.

They refuse to sell, for a reson known by themselves only, the state claims that it cannot do anything, because it is private property and the buildings degrade day-by-day.

Are these rennovations you present here private initiatives, or are they part of larger, state-led processes?

If that is the case, how is the system actually moving along? Are the owners forced to pay back the money, or is it just a grant from the state+EU for the restoration, due to their historic character?

Also, I've noticed A/C units on some of the buildings prior to restoration, but post-restoration they are all gone (which is the way to go), but how do you actually solve this logistical problem?

Sorry for the many questions, but I am quite passionate about historical revitalization, and I would like the same to be done in my home city.

Thanks in advance for the reply.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 02:17 AM   #567
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I would be interested to have an answer as well, because all the points that you gave in your post are exactly the same for Bulgaria, especially the ACs that personally drive me nuts.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 07:49 AM   #568
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I would suspect that its a combination; the public sector pays for improvements to publicly owned lands (squares, streetscapes, street furniture etc); private sector co-finances those restorations led by that sector; public sector still plays a big role in the restoration of either housing corporation (spoldzielnia in Polish) owned buildings or as is the case with Warsaw, a lot of buildings remain owned by the government. But I might be totally off.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 05:57 PM   #569
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intervention has it mostly right actually. the funding of restorations depends on the type of ownership usually and warsaw is unique, because it was subject to the decree Bierut that nationalized all the land in Warsaw mostly to facilitate reconstruction and reconfiguring it's infrastructure for future development, so in cases where ownership is in dispute not much restoration is done unless its a registered historic buildings and only essential repairs are being done - this is holding up some restoration work in Warsaw.

most Varsovians own private apartments cooperatively managed as wspoldzielnia and in these cases they raise most of the funds for restoration themselves, but the city conservator will provide matching funds if the building is a registered historic monument. poorer coops raise money by allowing private companies to put up huge advertising signs on their facades - an ugly form of urban blight but necessary. many buildings are communal where tenants pay rent and therefore have no incentive to invest in restoring a building in which case the conservator will pay the entire amount, funds permitting, if the building is registered. In the latter case, given the amount of restoration and maintenance most Polish cities need the funds are hard to find, so the conservator may resort to the European Union for subsidies or Norway Grants. Finally, more or more buildings with clear title in prime locations with architectural value are bought up by developers and restored. There arre unique cases like Krakow and Torun given the value of their architectural heritage that get funding directly from the president or Polish government - for Krakow its the Społeczny Komitet Odnowy Zabytków Krakowa, but this is being phased out.
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Thank you very much. The situation is different then, and I don't know if your model can be applied succesfully in Bucharest.

Do you have any idea about how the A/C units are hidden after the renovations by any chance?
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 09:45 AM   #571
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Thank you very much. The situation is different then, and I don't know if your model can be applied succesfully in Bucharest.

Do you have any idea about how the A/C units are hidden after the renovations by any chance?
If someone really needs an AC (Poland is colder than Romania and the popularity of ACs is much lower) it's installed on the backyard side only, most of the apartments have windows to both sides. Central AC on the roofs/attics is rarely seen and only when a single company owns the building. Basically the ACs are mostly seen in apartments transformed into offices and on the ground floor (shops, services).

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I understand. Installing A/C on the rear facade is something I have been advocating for a long time in Romania. Unfortunately our climate is much warmer so A/C becomes a necessity.

Thank you all for the information presented, and let me congratulate you on stunning recreations and rennovations. You are an example to be followed.
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wow! im impressed, wonderful to see this happen. bravo poland
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 07:02 AM   #574
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 08:20 AM   #577
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wow, those pics really put the lubie in Lublin
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They're from the Polish part of this site. A lot of those pics are from '08 and '09 so most of these renovations should be done by now.
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