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Old January 30th, 2015, 02:10 AM   #661
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Hamburgs inner city is home of 5 churches which are all among the highest in the world. Together with the (church like) town hall tower -
also on of the highest in the world - this special set up/concentration is kind of unique and deserves imo protection.
No one needs to feel sorry for us that we don't have real skyscrapers in Hamburg. The skyscraperrace is ongoing for so long that the
gap to even european cities is never ever to be closed. So who would care if Hamburg builds some skyscrapers, which are standing
around in every other city in the world bigger and better? No one.



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Old January 30th, 2015, 08:21 PM   #662
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I wouldn't mind a group of 100-200m towers a little bit off the center close to the Elbe (or one some former port island), but for Hamburg and a European city in general, I don't think it's a must. Design should be decisive, not height or building skyscrapers for the sake of skyscrapers. A complete fail in this regard imho is what Madrid did.

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Old February 1st, 2015, 03:54 AM   #663
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I wouldn't mind a group of 100-200m towers a little bit off the center close to the Elbe (or one some former port island), but for Hamburg and a European city in general, I don't think it's a must. Design should be decisive, not height or building skyscrapers for the sake of skyscrapers.
I wouldn't mind either. My point was just that no one outside Hamburg would notice or care if we suddenly build some scyscrapers just to have some - so the city wouldn't gain anything by this. And skyscrapers have a difficult satus over here since city developments of the last two decades caused a lot of tensions and even brutal riots in Hamburg.
So every building above 100 Meters must not only be an architectonical eyecatcher but also a building with a multi-usage open for all people. All higher buldings (50-100 Meters) of the last 10 years like Tango-Towers, Empire Riverside, Kristall or even the Elphi are just total fail in bringing the people of Hamburg some more together
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Old February 1st, 2015, 01:05 PM   #664
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I do not think that there is a need for skyscrapers in the very city center. The city is great as it is with its charm. Should just get away with some of those ugly 70 blocks. Personally, in relation to skyscrapers, I however have great hopes for Chicago square. That could be something.
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Old February 2nd, 2015, 03:03 AM   #665
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I do not think that there is a need for skyscrapers in the very city center. The city is great as it is with its charm. Should just get away with some of those ugly 70 blocks.
two of those 70ies blocks right bext to the St.Nikolai Church are going down this year and will be replaced with buildings which suit a lot better two their location -> For more see here
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Personally, in relation to skyscrapers, I however have great hopes for Chicago square. That could be something.
I am not sure if this still is suitable for the "Jump over the elbe river concept" with massive housing developents in the Wilhelmsburg and Veddel quarter. A bunch of skyscrapers could be considered as contraproductive wall between Veddel and Hammabrook quarter. The Chicago Square will certainly get adapted to the new overdone masterplans. I personally think that just one very sleek Building around 150 Meters in the east of the Elbe Bridges and some 50-80 Meters Highrises next to the Chicago-Square Subwaystation will rise
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Old February 2nd, 2015, 05:02 AM   #666
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Hamburg has a very beautiful and modern skyline but I'm sorry for the lack of a "true" skyscraper.
I really don't understand why a so modern city like Hamburg doesn't have tall buildings.
Many people in Germany don't like tall buildings. They prefer the churches to remain the dominant structures in cities.
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Sometimes there are very concrete reasons. I Berlin it`s low property prices mixed with extreme soft ground. In Paris it`s narrow streets, insufficient water pipes and gigantic underground caves. Or the city of Roma. Underground caves that could cave in mixed with heritage worries. Anyway, a lac of highrise can have 100 reasons. Hamburg has highrise, but you can`t make it out because there is no cluster.

Btw. I don`t like the highrise in Rotterdam. They are too boxy.
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Sometimes there are very concrete reasons. I Berlin it`s low property prices mixed with extreme soft ground. In Paris it`s narrow streets, insufficient water pipes and gigantic underground caves. Or the city of Roma. Underground caves that could cave in mixed with heritage worries. Anyway, a lac of highrise can have 100 reasons. Hamburg has highrise, but you can`t make it out because there is no cluster.

Btw. I don`t like the highrise in Rotterdam. They are too boxy.
Rotterdam is the most depressing city I've ever visited.

I went to the top of St. Nikolai when I visited last year, and the view is just exceptional.

Any high-rise should be kept a while down the Elbe, like Canary Wharf in London.
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Old February 3rd, 2015, 01:14 AM   #669
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Hamburg has highrise, but you can`t make it out because there is no cluster.
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Actually there are two clusters at Berliner Tor and the Hafenkrone, but they are not so remarkable
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Construction Plot 60 final design
  • Heigh: approx 60meter
  • Usage: office
  • Investor: Quantum AG
  • Status: construction start 2015
location is next to the Marco Polo Tower
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Old March 4th, 2015, 02:40 AM   #671
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Competition for Construction Plots 55-57 is over



Winners are:

Quelle: HafenCity.com Downloadbar hier: http://www.hafencity.com/upload/file...chtsgrafik.pdf

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All the winning architects with a model of the quarter

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Winning Designs introduced in following comments. For construction Plot "57 Süd" ( 57 south) be Hamburg Gmbh no good render
is currently availabe online and will be added as soon some good stuff is availabe
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Am Strandkai -
Construction Plot 55

  • Investor: AUG. PRIEN
  • Arichtects: www.leonwohlhage.de
  • Usage: Living, commercial units in Ground Floor, Kulture offers for Children, public Spare Time facilities
  • Status: Confirmed


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Old March 4th, 2015, 03:05 AM   #673
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Am Strandkai -
Construction Plot 56

  • Investors: AUG. PRIEN + Social Housing partners of:
    HANSA Baugenossenschaft |
    Gemeinnützige Baugenossenschaft Bergedorf-Bille eG |
    Bauverein der Elbgemeinden eG
  • Arichtects: http://www.ingenhovenarchitects.com
  • Usage: Living (1/3 social housing), commercial units in Ground Floor,
  • Status: Confirmed


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Am Strandkai -
Construction Plot 57 - North

  • Investors: AUG. PRIEN + Social Housing partners of:
    HANSA Baugenossenschaft |
    Gemeinnützige Baugenossenschaft Bergedorf-Bille eG |
    Bauverein der Elbgemeinden eG
  • Arichtects: www.lrw-architekten.de
  • Usage: Living (1/3 social housing), commercial units in Ground Floor,
  • Status: Confirmed


www.lrw-architekten.de
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Am Strandkai -
Construction Plot 57 - Tower

  • Floors/High: 15 / 60 m
  • Investors: AUG. PRIEN
  • Arichtects: http://www.haditeherani.com/
  • Usage: Living (mostly Penthouses), commercial units in Ground Floor,
  • Status: Confirmed


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Those projects look alright from up close (in the renders at least), but not so appealing from a distance. Well, luckily they'll be mostly seen from afar from ships/boat tours.

Thank you for keeping us posted Jija, great work!
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Old March 5th, 2015, 12:20 PM   #677
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The buildings are ok but the public space looks really boring!
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Am Strandkai -
Construction Plot 57 - South

  • Investors: AUG. PRIEN + Social Housing partners of:
    HANSA Baugenossenschaft |
    Gemeinnützige Baugenossenschaft Bergedorf-Bille eG |
    Bauverein der Elbgemeinden eG
  • Arichtects: http://www.baumschlager-eberle.com
  • Usage: Living (1/3 social housing), commercial units in Ground Floor,
  • Status: Confirmed


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Unlike the contemporary work in Dusseldorf, these works are very standard-fare for modern design. No uniqueness and surely nothing about them that makes their design appropriate for such a focal point of the city. They may be fine for a development tucked in a suburb, but for the gateway-image to a major international port? No way.
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