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Old May 29th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #2501
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Blasts from train accidents happen far too often around this continent

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Old May 29th, 2013, 07:29 AM   #2502
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Traveled by train to and from Washington for the first time. Wow. 78 times bett than flying and 127 times better than driving. I took the regular north eastern Amtrak train to DC and then Acela train to get back to NYC. Very relaxing and hassle free. I wish I could take a train to Europe.

Yes, trains are more expensive than flying, but if you're not exceedingly poor then it's worth the extra expense.
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Old May 29th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #2503
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How much would a single fare from NYC to Richmond, VA cost on the train? And how much on the bus roughly?
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Old May 29th, 2013, 01:30 PM   #2504
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Depends on different factors. But I can tell you rough roundtrip prices:

$70 bus
$250 train
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Old May 29th, 2013, 02:10 PM   #2505
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$250 for 340 miles, not bad. In Germany a train trip from Munich to Berlin (590 km/360 miles) would cost about 236 euros, so that's comparable. In Japan Tokyo to Osaka (500km/310miles) per Nozomi Shinkansen would cost 14220 yen, so that's comparable too.
But $250 compared with $ 70 for the bus. That's a huge gap.

But now the million dollar question: In the Germany the ICE covers this distance in a little under 6 hours, the Shinkansen in only 3 hours. How long does Amtrak take?
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Old May 29th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #2506
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6 hours I think, maybe less. You can try Amtrak.com to do your research

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Old May 29th, 2013, 04:11 PM   #2507
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Well, USA suffers the same problem as ex-USSR countries - overweighted (due to regulations) trains, that drive all costs up - the cost of energy, the wear of track (more frequent track repairs), cost of trains (more weight means more metal and other stuff)
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Old May 29th, 2013, 05:11 PM   #2508
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Depends on different factors. But I can tell you rough roundtrip prices:

$70 bus
$250 train
Book in advanced and its 120-125$.
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Old May 29th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #2509
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When should I book to get those prices? Approximately a month before?
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When should I book to get those prices? Approximately a month before?
3 weeks to a month....
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Old May 30th, 2013, 04:24 AM   #2511
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Some of my pics.

Penn Station


Cafe bar on the Acela


Business class car. The food was tasty but there was no plate.


To be honest, I didn't see much difference between Coach on a regular north eastern train and business on Acela. I also felt like the regular train provided a smoother ride.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #2512
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Yeah, I agree. The train system here is pretty obsolete in most places. It would be nice to be able to hop on a train as a more cost effective solution to flying or taking the bus. I've always loved trains, but when I moved abroad it really started to hit me about how we should be utilizing trains in our own country for a better travel solution between towns and states...
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Old June 5th, 2013, 12:07 AM   #2513
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$250 for 340 miles, not bad. In Germany a train trip from Munich to Berlin (590 km/360 miles) would cost about 236 euros, so that's comparable. In Japan Tokyo to Osaka (500km/310miles) per Nozomi Shinkansen would cost 14220 yen, so that's comparable too.
But $250 compared with $ 70 for the bus. That's a huge gap.

But now the million dollar question: In the Germany the ICE covers this distance in a little under 6 hours, the Shinkansen in only 3 hours. How long does Amtrak take?
Over 7 hours from NYC to Richmond. I calculated the average speed being 47 mph/75 kmh . Pathetic if you ask me. BTW, is you quote a jab towards mass transit?

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Over 7 hours from NYC to Richmond. I calculated the average speed being 47 mph/75 kmh . Pathetic if you ask me. BTW, is you quote a jab towards mass transit?
Why is there such an anti railway attitude in the USA? I am an Indian, and in India/China railways is the main mode of transport. Of course USA is a first world country but even granted that, there are first world countries with railways. So why is the USA reluctant to develop railways between cities? Is it some deeper cultural issues?
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Over 7 hours from NYC to Richmond. I calculated the average speed being 47 mph/75 kmh . Pathetic if you ask me. BTW, is you quote a jab towards mass transit?
Thats the local Regional...Virgina trains make all regional stops and have a long layover at DC.
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BTW, is you quote a jab towards mass transit?
Yes, but not in the way you may think. I think it's an acccurate description why many people do not use public transport.
It also kind of described the chicken and the egg problem of public transport: The usual way transit authorities cope with unprofitable lines is to reduce services, which in turn will reduce the number of passengers even further, leading to further reduction of services,... You probably get the point. Simply put: provide the public with the service they need and they will use it.
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Thats the local Regional...Virgina trains make all regional stops and have a long layover at DC.
You right, Acela is faster. Still, it's rather slow as it's take just as long to drive station to station as "fastest" train available, not including traffic.
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When should I book to get those prices? Approximately a month before?
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Why is there such an anti railway attitude in the USA? I am an Indian, and in India/China railways is the main mode of transport. Of course USA is a first world country but even granted that, there are first world countries with railways. So why is the USA reluctant to develop railways between cities? Is it some deeper cultural issues?
It's the fact that trains are more of a form of transportation for urban areas, and the US is much less urban than let's say China. Also, the large car companies, and oil companies have much control, and lots of lobbyists in congress to keep anything good for sustainable forms of transportation from actually being used or constructed (including HSR).
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