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Old December 2nd, 2013, 02:31 PM   #2661
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 02:09 AM   #2662
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Again, another crash caused by speeding.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 08:59 AM   #2663
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I read something about speeds in the order of 80 mph in a 30 mph section, but also that the driver claimed the brakes were not working.
That raises 3 questions: Was there some ATC on this section? If the service brakes didn't work, why didn't he use the emergency brakes? If he did, why didn't they work either? All questions the NTSB is probably working on at this moment.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 10:25 AM   #2664
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Was there some ATC on this section?
Apparently not. ATC is required to be installed by 2015 but Metro-North is one of the railroads that has said it won't be able to comply.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:34 AM   #2665
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Then Metro-North should be threatened with shutdown until it installs ATC. Whenever a critical update to airplanes is unveiled, airlines are given a deadline to install them or else they can't fly the planes that have not been upgraded (and likewise airports might not be able to keep operating).

Threaten a shutdown and the parties concerned will find a way to finance ATC. Namely, the state of New York will scramble to pay for ATC, since shutting the railway down is a non-starter in political terms.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:05 PM   #2666
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So why is ATB a so expensive? 1520 railways are now converting to KLUB-U which didn't require any immediate signalling upgrade, and consist of single device connected to the brakes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLUB-U , and while it's not something you can buy with you spare money, it's still have a minor cost comparing to the huge amounts of money railways operate.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:16 PM   #2667
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I read something about speeds in the order of 80 mph in a 30 mph section, but also that the driver claimed the brakes were not working.
That raises 3 questions: Was there some ATC on this section? If the service brakes didn't work, why didn't he use the emergency brakes? If he did, why didn't they work either? All questions the NTSB is probably working on at this moment.
Preliminary reports (not NTSB) claim that the engineer dozed off at the controls for a few moments prior to entering the curve, and was jolted awake once the cab car started squealing through the curve. At that point, the throttle was set at idle (with train speed already having accelerated past the 70 mph limit imposed on the straight track prior to the curve up to 82 mph), and the train was dumped (term used to signify an emergency brake application). This action was too late in preventing the derailment.
Prelim information released by the NTSB:
Speed before derailment: 82 mph
Throttle set to idle: 6 seconds prior to derailment.
Train dumped: 5 seconds prior to derailment.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:30 PM   #2668
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I bet situations like that be solved with modern train control systems. Maybe now there will be a sufficient push to invest in things like that.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #2669
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Apparently not. ATC is required to be installed by 2015 but Metro-North is one of the railroads that has said it won't be able to comply.
So the FRA cannot issue mandatory requirements equivalent to FAA's Airworthiness Directives?
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Old December 5th, 2013, 03:58 AM   #2670
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Siemens has announced it's competing design to the EMD / CAT F125:
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Siemens Rail Systems and Cummins jointly announced a partnership on Dec. 3, 2013 that they said "will bring one of the most modern and efficient passenger rail, diesel-electric locomotives in the world to the U.S. marketplace."

The companies said Cummins QSK95 diesel engines will be used in Siemens' diesel-electric locomotives in the U.S., "resulting in one of the most energy-efficient, lightweight, smart, diesel-electric locomotives available today in North America...

...The locomotives will be built and assembled at Siemens' solar-powered transportation manufacturing facility in Sacramento, Calif. Cummins diesel QSK95 engines will be made in Seymour, Ind. The 95-liter prime mover is the most powerful high-speed 16-cylinder diesel to be installed in a locomotive generating more than 4,000 hp (2,983 kW), the companies said.
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Old December 20th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #2671
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Siemens selected for 200 km/h US passenger locomotive order
20 Dec 2013



USA: Illinois Department of Transportation announced on December 19 that it had selected Siemens for a contract to supply approximately 35 diesel locomotives with maximum speed of 200 km/h.

The deal has still to be finalised, but a notice of intent has been issued by IDOT, which is leading a joint procurement on behalf of Illinois, California, Michigan, Washington and Missouri.

The Federal Railroad Administration has allocated $808m to fund a 'next generation' passenger fleet to operate inter-city services in the five states. As well as 35 locomotives, this includes 130 double-deck coaches ordered from Sumitomo and Nippon Sharyo in a process led by California Department of Transportation.

The Siemens diesel-electric locomotives would have Cummins QSK95 engines meeting Tier 4 emissions standards, and would be manufactured along with 'all of their component parts' in the USA. 'This award creates jobs, spurs economic growth and further lays the foundation for a sustainable, long-term passenger rail network in the United States', said federal Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx.

Michael Cahill, President of Siemens Rail Systems USA, said 'leveraging Siemens' proven rail expertise and technology, we look forward to building the most energy-efficient, advanced technology, diesel-electric locomotives in North America', which will be assembled in Sacramento.

Outside the Northeast Corridor, Amtrak operates 175 km/h services on a 130 km section of the Chicago - Detroit corridor, and it is envisaged that 80% of the route will be suitable for 175 km/h by 2015. A 24 km section of the Chicago - St Louis corridor has been upgraded for 175 km/h, and infrastructure works now underway will permit 175 km/h operation on about 75% of the corridor by 2017; studies are underway into ways of raising speeds on the remainder of the route.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 03:13 AM   #2672
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Old December 24th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #2673
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We need more diesel electric trains, we also need them to run on moonshine.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 11:48 PM   #2674
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Hey, look, it's a modern-looking train! Who would have thought it'd ever happen!?
On a more serious note, I really dig the display on the front showing the destination. It may not be the most functional addition to the engine but at least it looks nice.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #2675
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ACS-64 600 is to debut in revenue service on Friday, February 8th, on train 171 from BOS to WAS. Keep your eyes open.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 10:31 AM   #2676
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Diesel...US need electric locomotive
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Old February 6th, 2014, 05:17 PM   #2677
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Definitely, but it's a matter of overall attitude. Just look at Amtrak's website, it looks like it's straight from the 90s!
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Old February 6th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #2678
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Sure! Right after they pay to throw up catenaries...over old lines....most of which they don't own...
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Old February 6th, 2014, 11:30 PM   #2679
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So how looks the ownership of rail lines in US?
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Old February 6th, 2014, 11:45 PM   #2680
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I see potential for railway electrification to freight operations in USA only in a few lines between Midwest and Northeast Corridor. For example, NS Pittsburgh Line is a ideal stretch to operations with electric locomotives because Allegheny Mountains and ramps of 2% in the Horseshoe curve.

In 1970's, EMD developed two electric locomotive for freight trains on Northeast Corridor. Conrail don't interested in these models...



However, California commuter trains (Amtrak California between San Diego and San Luis Obispo, COASTER, Metrolink...) should be electrified urgently. Diesel consumption there is absurdly large.
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