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Old April 5th, 2006, 03:04 PM   #301
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/roede...-roeder05.html

Trump looks in mirror, finds perfect customer

April 5, 2006

BY DAVID ROEDER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

Donald Trump is taking a little off the top, in a manner of speaking. He's reserving the top-floor penthouse in his new Chicago tower for himself.

Trump has withheld from sale the full-floor unit, which had an asking price of $28 million. He said he "probably" will use the 89th-floor unit as a part-time residence. It will measure 14,000 square feet, with 16-foot ceilings. "I'm in Chicago a lot, and I expect to be there more," in part because he plans to use the city as a stage for a future season of "The Apprentice," ratings permitting.

"I'm intrigued by the layout of the unit. And I love the building. It's already setting sales records in Chicago," Trump said. He said he's also looking at three other sites for a second development act in Chicago, but confessed to a problem with pursuing any of them.

"I've already got the best site in Chicago, so it would be hard to backtrack," he said. The 92-story Trump International Hotel & Tower is under construction on Wabash along the north bank of the Chicago River. A late 2007 delivery has been promised for the hotel, with the condos due in 2008.

Told that a cynic might suggest he's taking the penthouse because he can't sell it, Trump said, "That's absolutely not the case. This building has recorded $729 million in sales.'' He said that translates into 77 percent of the condo and hotel units being sold.

Trump Tower Chicago "is already paid for,'' he said. Unbidden, he drew a comparison with his rival for skyline glory, the proposed 124-story Santiago Calatrava-designed lakefront tower. "That building can't be built at the numbers they're quoting [$550 million]," he said. "It's going to cost at least $900 million in hard construction numbers. Any bank that finances that deserves to lose money.".....
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Old April 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM   #302
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in part because he plans to use the city as a stage for a future season of "The Apprentice," ratings permitting.
cool!

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"I'm intrigued by the layout of the unit. And I love the building. It's already setting sales records in Chicago," Trump said. He said he's also looking at three other sites for a second development act in Chicago, but confessed to a problem with pursuing any of them. "I've already got the best site in Chicago, so it would be hard to backtrack," he said.
he should build a new WTB on the old wolf point location.


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Unbidden, he drew a comparison with his rival for skyline glory, the proposed 124-story Santiago Calatrava-designed lakefront tower. "That building can't be built at the numbers they're quoting [$550 million]," he said. "It's going to cost at least $900 million in hard construction numbers. Any bank that finances that deserves to lose money."
what a shmuck soar looser!
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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:17 PM   #303
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If Trump spreads enough fear, uncertanty and doubt around, he may influence the project and throw cold water on it. Is this ethical? I'm sure his investors would want him to do it. Less competition means more money.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:40 PM   #304
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Any businessman/woman can see what he is trying to do and talking out of pure jealousy. If I can assume most of the buyers in Carley's building are sauvy enough to think for themselves and make their own decision, then I would say no harm has been done.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 11:19 PM   #305
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A second Trump? Now we're talking

Trump at Wolf Point designed by Lord Norman Foster, PLEASE!
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Old April 6th, 2006, 08:56 PM   #306
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Ugh, I really don't like Trump, and I think it's pretty childish how much he's complained about the spire.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:41 AM   #307
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Any businessman/woman can see what he is trying to do and talking out of pure jealousy. If I can assume most of the buyers in Carley's building are sauvy enough to think for themselves and make their own decision, then I would say no harm has been done.

100% AGREE. TRUMP IS SCARED OF THE SPIRE BECAUSE IT WILL BE MORE PRESTIGOUS THAN HIS OWN TOWER...Trump must be careful for the more he rips the spire the more pr its getting!

Also I highly doubt Trump bought the unit simply because he wanted it. I would say this was definetely a PR move to grab headlines.

Also what does he mean by "setting sales record" Trump tower has not seen the success in units sold as originally hoped. So I don't understand.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 04:39 AM   #308
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Whatever Trump says, the opposite is usually true

Trump can shamelessly lie. That sniping at the Fordham Spire is going to get him nowhere, though his goofy quotes do give him more publicity.

Ninety per cent is of what he says is either exaggertion or outright falsehood. Remember his comical descriptions of Trump World Tower. "A ninety story building!" he exclaimed.

"Wait, we can see here that it is only 72 stories." a reporter commented.

"No, it's ninety stories!"

Reporters scratched their head and then simply told their readers about the new 72 story building that Trump proposed.

A few years later, upon completion of Trump World Tower, he appeared on The Apprentice to announce that one of the tasks was to rent out the top floor of "this amazing ninety story building." He is a real comedian.

The funny thing is that he has done that silly exaggeration with several other Trump buildings in New York. He adds on square feet, extra floors and imaginary sales figures as though no one will question him or as though no one owns a ruler in that town.

And he thinks we are jealous of his bought-and-paid for wife...and of his hair too, probably.

Anyway, that Trump talk will have no effect on the Fordham Spire. I'll bet those money men know that Trump is full of it.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 05:38 AM   #309
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We should not forget that after all the talk is done, the Donald has given this city a first-class tall that we are thought might never be built. He did it and no one else. It's deeds not words that count in the development world.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 07:18 AM   #310
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You've got a point

Frumie, I have to concede that you are right. His pettiness does not negate his accomplishments. Even though he might be a jerk, I am grateful to him for bringing to us a great-looking skyscraper.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 07:23 PM   #311
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A second Trump? Now we're talking

Trump at Wolf Point designed by Lord Norman Foster, PLEASE!
Ehh, I don't know about that. What I'd really like to see for Wolf Point, if Trump or anyone else for that matter decided to build a supertall there is a worldwide design competition, reminescent of the 1922 Tribune competition. We might get a ton of kick-ass designs that could really bring attention to Chicago.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #312
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That could happen, but we know Foster willl win it all so why not skip that whole process
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Old April 7th, 2006, 11:39 PM   #313
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right,just like how he won for his WTC design
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Old April 8th, 2006, 12:00 AM   #314
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He's still designing a tower at WTC. And his original concept was much better than what they have now.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 01:13 AM   #315
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Hey Junior, anymore jobsite photos for us? Pretty please?
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Old April 8th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #316
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I believe the sales records Trump is referring to are for price-per-square-foot in Chicago. If that's the case, then, he's not exaggerating or lying. His building has taken the old standards for our wonderful city and thrown them out the window when it comes to residential real-estate prices.
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Old April 9th, 2006, 05:54 PM   #317
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Well, it's not FROM the job site,but...

4/8/06

View to the west from the Chicago River


View from the river of rising columns


View to the northeast from the river
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Old April 9th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #318
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Wow I can't wait to see the Trump skeleton when it's 70-80 floors high overlooking the city!
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Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9
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You know, come to think of it, JuniorReb doesn't even post here. He post SSP. Hahaha, .

Thanks for the pictures Vic!!!!
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If Trump spreads enough fear, uncertanty and doubt around, he may influence the project and throw cold water on it. Is this ethical? I'm sure his investors would want him to do it. Less competition means more money.
Any bank or developer that has their decisions influenced by unsolicited comments by random people (even if famous) deserves to fail and go bankrupt.

Anyway, enough ragging on the man. He can be a whiny rich bastard, but i'll allow him that for putting up a nice skyscraper in Chicago. And keep in mind that he's doing something the FS won't: amazing street-level interaction. Remember, it's not the size of the ship...
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