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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #1321
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Old July 11th, 2008, 12:00 AM   #1322
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Question for BVic: I've never seen one of the dinner boats on the river before. Does this happen often? I have to think that raising the bridges for one dinner boat would require some clout.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 02:00 AM   #1323
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06wt....where are you? Are you still over @ Clare? I havent heard anything from in a few weeks and just looking to see if you have any news on anything.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 04:12 AM   #1324
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nice pic's.

i wonder how this building would've looked with balconies? i often compare this tower to the museum park tower, but at least there they have a certain numbers of units with a balcony. i give p & h and enterprise credit for trying...it's not easy to integrate balconies into a residential tower.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 08:01 AM   #1325
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Question for BVic: I've never seen one of the dinner boats on the river before. Does this happen often? I have to think that raising the bridges for one dinner boat would require some clout.
It's happened a few times this summer. The only go as far as the Sheraton. Usually picking up large parties.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 08:03 AM   #1326
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nice pic's.

i wonder how this building would've looked with balconies? i often compare this tower to the museum park tower, but at least there they have a certain numbers of units with a balcony. i give p & h and enterprise credit for trying...it's not easy to integrate balconies into a residential tower.
awful.

this tower is best without balconies. the terraces are enough.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #1327
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agreed. it is way to big and too many units for balconies sticking out everywhere
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Old July 11th, 2008, 03:18 PM   #1328
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Balconies on higher floors of condos are a waste of valuable space and an obstacle to good design. In Chicago, it is apparently marketing suicide to exclude them – kudos to Trump for trying it.

With the wind and weather around here they are not good for much – how often do you actually see anyone out on their balcony? … Not often.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #1329
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i kinda like the idea of projectile white resin furniture myself..... =)
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Old July 12th, 2008, 02:23 AM   #1330
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Does anyone know how much more height they have to go? I was downtown last weekend and saw the Trump from the Theater district (I hadn't seen it except from pictures previously), and it appears they may be building the final couple of stories/roof (it looks like it's sticking out more than the previous floors).
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Old July 12th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #1331
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Balconies on higher floors of condos are a waste of valuable space and an obstacle to good design. In Chicago, it is apparently marketing suicide to exclude them – kudos to Trump for trying it.

With the wind and weather around here they are not good for much – how often do you actually see anyone out on their balcony? … Not often.
Not always.

Waterview Tower will have balconies, and it actually adds to the design.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #1332
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Waterview Tower will have balconies, and it actually adds to the design.
100% agreement. Did you ever look at the floor plans? The full floor penthouses have balconies facing every direction, absolutely an integral part of the layout.

Hell, if I were in a high rise within sight of Monroe Harbor and Navy Pier, I'd want a balcony just for the fireworks alone.
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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #1333
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Has anyone noticed the darker blue banding of glass on every 4th or 5th floor?

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Old July 15th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #1334
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They look like taller floors, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:19 PM   #1335
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QUESTION:

Prior to construction, there was a worry that Trump would overpower a Chicago icon next door, the Wrigley Building.

Based on where Trump is now (so close to the top), do you see any adverse effect on Wrigley due to the scale differential?
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Old July 15th, 2008, 11:55 PM   #1336
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not at all IMO. wrigley looks awesome with the trump tower in the background when looking at the buildings from the east. (in the NBC tower plaza area) I need to get the camera + tripod and take a shot at night. you can be the judge.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 03:43 AM   #1337
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in answer to your question, there was some worry locally in the architectural community that putting anything taller than the old sun times building would dwarf the buildings at michigan & wacker - mainly, the wrigley building, 333 michigan, the tribune tower and obviously to a lesser extent, the equitable building- and take away from it's prominence.

but i think that the quality of adrian smith's sculpted building with its well thought out setbacks, adds to the riverfront without destroying the space at michigan & wacker.

but as with everything, one can debate the aesthetics....in my experience, it's a lot easier to 'sell' the idea of a traditional building than it is to sell a modern design. i suppose in an ironic twist, using a relatively stripped-down Miesian curtain wall on trump is arguably a contextual gesture. the once controvercial Mies buildings of old are like an old comfortable chair now. =)
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in answer to your question, there was some worry locally in the architectural community that putting anything taller than the old sun times building would dwarf the buildings at michigan & wacker - mainly, the wrigley building, 333 michigan, the tribune tower and obviously to a lesser extent, the equitable building- and take away from it's prominence.

but i think that the quality of adrian smith's sculpted building with its well thought out setbacks, adds to the riverfront without destroying the space at michigan & wacker.

but as with everything, one can debate the aesthetics....in my experience, it's a lot easier to 'sell' the idea of a traditional building than it is to sell a modern design. i suppose in an ironic twist, using a relatively stripped-down Miesian curtain wall on trump is arguably a contextual gesture. the once controvercial Mies buildings of old are like an old comfortable chair now. =)
It was at the behest of the local NIMBY's who objected to the blocked sight lines and suggested to Adrian Smith that he round the corners. A rare instance of community input that enhanced design.
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Old July 16th, 2008, 05:12 AM   #1339
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I agree with you guys. And truthfully, the most important and icon view of the Wrigley Bldg is looking north from Michigan Ave, due south of the river. And that view is unaffected by Trump.

The other view of note, the floodlight view at night is best seen by boat on on Wacker east of Michigan and while Trump appears, one's eyes are drawn northwestward and the view of WB is not hurt.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #1340
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Any of you ridiculously awesome photographers notice how good Trump looks like from Elston? Especially a bit further out, like in the Elston/California intersection in Avondale. There is a great contrast between the local streetscape and this huge, shining skyscraper which just towers over everything in the foreground. I'm drawn to it everytime I pass by the intersection.

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