Pacific Mall Expansion: New Hotel and Mall in Markham...

[brienza]

Has anybody herd any info on the new development there planning in markham, at the site of Pacific mall. Apparantly there building a additional 400 000 square foot adition to the mall, a aboveground parking lot and a hote.
If anybody has any information or pics. please post them...

Thanks

Nick

[Travis007]

EDIT:

Nevermind, looks like NiceView has posted an article about it. Sounds good, I always thought that the parking lots at Pacific Mall have potential for more development.

[niceView]

Here is an article from the Markham Economist and Sun:

PACIFIC MALL GROWING UP
EXPANSION PLANS INCLUDE TOWER FOR LUXURY HOTEL

Jun 18, 2005
Joan Ransberry, Staff Writer - More from this author

A major expansion, including a luxury hotel, is planned for Market Village and Pacific Mall at the corner of Kennedy Road and Steeles Avenue.

The plan calls for an additional 400,000 square feet of retail space, a new hotel and a multi-level parking structure, all to be built at the existing 34-acre site at the northeast corner of the busy intersection.

Representatives of Remington Group Inc., owners of Market Village, and Torgan Group, owners of Pacific Mall, made the announcement at a press conference Wednesday.

"This project will make the mall more attractive to the Chinese community and to the general public," Sam Cohen, partner with Torgan Group, said.

"Market Village and Pacific Mall are not just malls. They're cultural centres."

The owners hope to begin construction in two or three years.

"The project would take about 18 months to build", said Wayne Chan, spokesperson for Remington Group.

At this time, proponents do not know how many stores will be involved in the expansion or how much the project will cost.

Also unknown at this time is which hotel chain will anchor the expansion.

The expansion will bring the combined size of the malls to about 1-million- square-feet.

While current zoning accommodates a mall expansion, details linked to parking, traffic and a site plan will have to be ironed out with Markham council, said project spokesman Stephen Wong of Living Group of Companies.

Pacific Mall is made up of about 300 stores, while Markham Village has 150 stores. The two malls have 2,800 parking stalls.

The expansion will alter the skyline in the area significantly as the hotel rises well above current structures at the site.

[Hsia]

I know many people who are against the plans to build it right across from Pacific mall because if you live near there like i do the traffic in that area will only get more worse than it already is.

[Travis007]

That's the problem with building all these malls next to each other. Also don't forget Spendid China Tower and mall which is built across from Pacific Mall too. Looks liek Markham is following the trends of Square One in Missi, building their City Centre around a mall.

[samsonyuen]

I hadn't heard anything about the expansion of Market Village/Pacific Mall. Does this mean they'll join them up? That's crazy. It does make sense to combine them, since they act as one anyway.

[Jaye101]

Technically it is in Scarborough. And PM and The Landmark are kilometers apart.

[Metroland]

^I believe the Pacific Mall/Market Village expansion and "The Landmark" are two different projects.

[doady]

Originally Posted by Travis007

That's the problem with building all these malls next to each other. Also don't forget Spendid China Tower and mall which is built across from Pacific Mall too. Looks liek Markham is following the trends of Square One in Missi, building their City Centre around a mall.

I thought Markham Cnetre was located somewhere on highway 7 and Warden? It sems odd to place their downtown at Steeles at the edge of the city.

I think malls are bad but they are much better than power centres. At least people can park their car or take the bus and walk around, but that is impossible with power centres cuz the stores are spread way too far apart.

[samsonyuen]

They are different projects. #1 is the Market Village/Pacific Mall/hotel expansion. That's on the north side of Steeles, east of Kennedy, west of the GO station. #2 is across the street where the Canadian Tire was, on the southe side of Steeles, is the Splendid China tower, which is retail and a hotel/condo(?). #3 is The Landmark, a shopping center at the southeast corner of Steeles and Markham.

Markham doesn't really have a center per se. The city hall is located at Warden & 7, as is the city theater, but there's nothing much else in that intersection except a shopping plaza (with No Frills and Future Shop), a recently expanded Hilton Hotel and Convention Centre and a huge tract of undeveloped farmland. Nearby is more strip plazas, Unionville Main Street, Woodbine Power Centre, and Markville S.C. Markhams seems to be horizontal, everything on E-W arterial roads (Highway 7, 16th, Steeles), and N-S roads just joining them up.

[rt_0891]

^ There's also the Tridel development by Markham City Hall. Around the area is the IBM HQ, North of Unionville High & the strip mall is subdivisions. South of the Hilton are suburban office parks.

Circa Town Centre (though its not directly at the Intersection)

[brienza]

For a map of the new expansion area in markham's new city centre go to
http://www.markham.ca/markham/channe...re/mc_home.htm

[samsonyuen]

Looks pretty good

[Jaye101]

again, technically this is in Scarborough and not markham

[samsonyuen]

Originally Posted by JayeTheOnly

again, technically this is in Scarborough and not markham

No, it's in Markham. It's at Highway 7 and Warden, well north of Steeles.

[Roch5220]

Great, 400,000 sq feet of more cell phone, pirated vcd/cd/dvd, and candy stores. Because the first multi level phase of Pacific Mall apparently wasn't enough?

All kidding aside, how the hell do they expect to add parking units? Underground parking under pacific mall is treaterous at best, what in gods name are they going to do?

It is Markham.

[rt_0891]

^ They could line the streets with parking meters. Or do it like Vancouver...label the parking spots for "small cars" and divy up more spaces.

[Travis007]

Originally Posted by Roch5220

All kidding aside, how the hell do they expect to add parking units? Underground parking under pacific mall is treaterous at best, what in gods name are they going to do?

It is Markham.

Well, the article said "a multi-level parking structure", so they will build a parking garage like the one at eaton centre (now demolished to build a new one).

And Markham has seen a lot of growth in the last few years, mostly around highway 7. I saw a lot of new mid-rise condos there when I was there last summer and I'm sure they've built more now. But Markham is very far away from being "urban".

Originally Posted by JayeTheOnly

again, technically this is in Scarborough and not markham

Technically, Pacific Mall is in Markham it's on the other side of Steeles. And highway 7 is not even close to being in Scarborough.

[Jaye101]

What are you talking about...I know PM is in Markham. Sorry I thought you were talking about The Landmark Condos.

[trader2day]

It will look great!
Pacific Mall proposal would double its size, add hotel
Posted: March 12, 2010, 6:40 PM by Rob Roberts

Artist conception drawing of new mall link :

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b...add-hotel.aspx
By Alex Keshen, National Post

An ambitious expansion proposal for Markham’s Pacific Mall — the largest Asian mall in North America — would double its size, add tunnels into its parking lot, and build an on-site hotel.

Stephen Wong, chairman of Living Realty Inc., said the expansion announced today would include two storeys of retail space sandwiched between one underground level of parking and a four-tiered parking garage on top.

He anticipates the expansion would add approximately 250,000 square-feet of retail space and 450 stores. There are currently 500 stores spread across the existing 270,000-square-feet of mall.

“It’s been a very successful venture to start with, so people want to make it even better,” he said.

The mall, which sits at the northeast corner of Kennedy Road and Steeles Avenue East, is a popular tourist attraction: It’s “like Christmas shopping there every weekend,” said Mr. Wong, who has been in charge of marketing and sales for the mall since it began selling units in 1993.

Unlike conventional shopping centres, the Pacific Mall has cubicle-like units, starting at a standard 145 square feet. Stores are comprised of one or more units. Due to the small nature of the stores, Mr. Wong said the mall often attracts new immigrants looking to start businesses.

Sam Cohen, president of the mall’s board of directors, said there are often wait lists for commercial space.

“People are coming into the mall and they want to get space,” Mr. Cohen said. “It’s very hard to accommodate them because it’s not too often new stalls come available.”

Mr. Wong said the proposal includes underground traffic tunnels for cars turning left from Steeles into the mall. The tunnel, similar to one at the nearby IBM campus on Steeles, would “make traffic a lot smoother rather than queuing up and blocking the road,” he said.

Kathleen Llewellyn-Thomas, commissioner of transportation services for York Region, said they already receive many complaints about traffic congestion in the area.

“Our job will be to make sure we build the infrastructure and engineer solutions that certainly won’t make anything worse, and ideally we’ll try and find things that will make it better,” she said.

The project has not yet been approved by the Town of Markham. Mr. Wong said he estimates the project will be completed in about four years.




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