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Old February 28th, 2007, 02:33 PM   #21
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The German truck toll.
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The worst system I know so far
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Old February 28th, 2007, 07:20 PM   #22
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why? is it like Austrian? if it is, then it should be ok
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Old February 28th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #23
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Are the TX tags just bar coded stickers? I've seen pictures but never clear enough to tell what it is I'm looking at.

They do have a barcode but I think the main thing that enables it to function is a radio frequency ID chip that accesses your account when you pass under the toll plaza.

In Houston they've been using something called EZTag for a long time but the TxTag and EZTag work on all the tollways across Texas.

Here is the website for the TxTag. http://www.txtag.org/ They have a picture of it on the front page. It's a sticker that goes on your windshield.

EZTag https://eztagstore.com/default.html
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Old February 28th, 2007, 07:35 PM   #24
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The worst system I know so far
In our media, we only hear it works good.

What are the problems to day with the tolling system?
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Old March 1st, 2007, 05:21 AM   #25
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The 407ETR in Toronto is one of the first (or the first?) highways to use purely
electronic tolling, even for cars that do not have a pass, in which case a video
camera photographs the license plate.

Another highway that is based on the 407 but uses the next generation of the
technology is Highway #6 in Israel (Cross-Israel Highway).
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Old March 1st, 2007, 05:24 AM   #26
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how can it be all e-toll? what if you're a visitor from outside the city? unless its standardized and mandatory for all vehicles in the country...
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Old March 1st, 2007, 05:25 AM   #27
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hmm.. the SR-91 here connecting Redondo Beach to Riverside here in Southern California is the only etoll that I know of (and its only for a fraction of the freeway´s length), in fact it´s one of the very few tollways in Southern California, there´s only a handful
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Old March 1st, 2007, 05:40 AM   #28
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how can it be all e-toll? what if you're a visitor from outside the city? unless its standardized and mandatory for all vehicles in the country...
I do not know very well, but I do know that indeed some conflicts arise, for
example if you drive on the highway and then "run away" back to your country

If you're just from another place in Canada or even the US then you will be
mailed the bill based on your license plate and vehicle registration. It's not a
huge deal though as all highways except the 407 in Toronto are free.

In Israel, if you rent a car, you usually have to sign an agreement stating that
you will not be using Highway #6 (similarly, as of now it is the only toll highway
in Israel).

People who use the highway regularly get a special transponder (kind of like
the various e-toll passes) which also provides lower rates.

Here is more information if you're interested:
407ETR
Cross-Israel Highway
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Old March 1st, 2007, 12:16 PM   #29
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I do not know very well, but I do know that indeed some conflicts arise, for
example if you drive on the highway and then "run away" back to your country

If you're just from another place in Canada or even the US then you will be
mailed the bill based on your license plate and vehicle registration. It's not a
huge deal though as all highways except the 407 in Toronto are free.

In Israel, if you rent a car, you usually have to sign an agreement stating that
you will not be using Highway #6 (similarly, as of now it is the only toll highway
in Israel).

People who use the highway regularly get a special transponder (kind of like
the various e-toll passes) which also provides lower rates.

Here is more information if you're interested:
407ETR
Cross-Israel Highway
I was thinking of australia, since the whole landmass is one country, it would be easy to do something like that, and I wasn't really thinking of other countries.

In the USA, I think it would make sense to leave some cash lanes since e-toll is not standardized, and paying the bill through the email is smart.

Also, I'm no stranger to e-toll =) In the Bay Area, there's a vast number of bridges that are tolled, so we have a system of transponders, and if you violate it, there's a penalty of $30 (the tolls are normally $4) but if you have an account registered, they will just add your license plate to the system, and you dont even need a transponder, as long as your plate is registered with them!
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In France the e-toll is called liber-t



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Do you have to stop for those automated toll booths? I went through the TxTag toll lanes at 85mph this morning.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 07:06 PM   #32
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All freeways in Puerto Rico have Autoexpreso(e-tolls),or you can pay with cash.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 07:53 PM   #33
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In Spain it is called: VIA-T.



http://www.viat.es/
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Do you have to stop for those automated toll booths? I went through the TxTag toll lanes at 85mph this morning.
no, usually speed limit is 30 or 40 km/h. in Croatia it is called ENC, we have it since last summer
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Old March 4th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #35
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I do not know very well, but I do know that indeed some conflicts arise, for
example if you drive on the highway and then "run away" back to your country

If you're just from another place in Canada or even the US then you will be
mailed the bill based on your license plate and vehicle registration. It's not a
huge deal though as all highways except the 407 in Toronto are free.

In Israel, if you rent a car, you usually have to sign an agreement stating that
you will not be using Highway #6 (similarly, as of now it is the only toll highway
in Israel).

People who use the highway regularly get a special transponder (kind of like
the various e-toll passes) which also provides lower rates.

Here is more information if you're interested:
407ETR
Cross-Israel Highway
I'm not sure if it's a new thing on the 407, but my car was registered for Alberta when I lived there 3 years ago. I drove on the 407 numerous of times with the Alberta Plate and never got a bill in the mail. I heard that it was free if your licence plate is not Ontario....But like I said, I'm not sure if they changed the rules.

Oh and by the way, the 407 is usually less busy compared to the 401, so it's a good alternative, but that was 3-5 years ago when I lived there. It's probably just as busy as the 401 now.

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Old March 4th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #36
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In Czechia we have e-toll system similar to Austrian since it's from the same company Kapsch.

There are gates with sensors along all motorways and expressways, every camion have special box on board and pay as much as he do kilometres on these roads.
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In future e-toll will be on all roads in the country and system will use GPS/Galileo.
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I don't like the way some of the e-tolls are in Europe, seeing from pictures here and experience from driving all around europe. It looks like your going into a toll booth and most times you have to slow down quite a bit or even stop. The 407etr in Toronto, when your on the ramp heading for the actual highway, there is like a series of large bars that go from the sides up over across the ramp and on the other side, not big just like metal bars with cameras, sensors and lights at the top that take pictures of the licesnse plate at any speed you want. I'd slow down on the frigid -30 degree temperatures in the winter though ahaha

Some people, me included, have a 407 transponder that beeps when you leave the highway signaling that you've left and it registered your time on the highway from the beginning.
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I don't like the way some of the e-tolls are in Europe, seeing from pictures here and experience from driving all around europe. It looks like your going into a toll booth and most times you have to slow down quite a bit or even stop.
yes, that's right. actually, it depends about syytem. Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Slovenia and Croatia have that way. Austria, Germany and Czech Rep. have vignettes for cars (Germany not), and portals which are taking credits from reciever for trucks. in Austria you have few toll booths which are functionating like those in Spain, France, Italy... (usually for payng longer tunnels). we got used to classic toll booths and we find it hard to change it
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I don't like the way some of the e-tolls are in Europe, seeing from pictures here and experience from driving all around europe. It looks like your going into a toll booth and most times you have to slow down quite a bit or even stop. The 407etr in Toronto, when your on the ramp heading for the actual highway, there is like a series of large bars that go from the sides up over across the ramp and on the other side, not big just like metal bars with cameras, sensors and lights at the top that take pictures of the licesnse plate at any speed you want. I'd slow down on the frigid -30 degree temperatures in the winter though ahaha

Some people, me included, have a 407 transponder that beeps when you leave the highway signaling that you've left and it registered your time on the highway from the beginning.

same here i have a 407 transponder
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Old March 10th, 2007, 06:53 PM   #40
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The tollways of Texas all have electronic tolling. We've got the best of both worlds, you can drive through with your TxTag or if you are using a rental or a car that doesn't have one you can still pay with cash
You sound just like a typical American!!!

hahaha...

407ETR is an all electronic toll highway, nobody is there to accept tolls from drivers. If you don't have a transponder, it will take a picture of your entry & exit point, and image will be send to 407ETR central office, where computerized OCR technology will read your plate, and calculate the distance travelled.

The "overhead toll sensor" is placed on every highway on/off ramp, for the width of the highway, slowing down is not necessary since it doesn't have a "dedicated lane" that if you travel too fast, you'll hit the side. To proof this, I once travelled 170km/h (and who cares about miles) with my 407ETR transponder, thru the junction of QEW/407, where the width of the overhead sensor is mount across all lanes of the highway, and it still beeps perfectly.

Can your "best" TxTag do this? Oh I'm sorry, your world is inside Texas only, so everything Texas size is the best thing in the world.

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