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Old February 6th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #101
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Italy for instance has no rules about that.
But they usually place it on the left side, don't they?
I have never ecountered one on the right side(in nothern and cental Italy)
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Old February 6th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #102
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In Dubai it is chip based. You buy and stuck the chip in the top middle of your windshield, recharge your account and any time you drive beneath the gate, the fee is reduced automatically from your deposited amount. There are actually 2 gates (on each direction) but if you avoid them, you can drive in between for free.

The cost for one passage is AED 4/- ($1.09)

There are cameras also so if you drive without chip the number plate is recognised and filmed, so you can't excape the fine. If no credit in account, you'll be finned too unless you'll recharge your account within 2 days.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 09:47 PM   #103
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But they usually place it on the left side, don't they?
I have never ecountered one on the right side(in nothern and cental Italy)
I don't know about you, but I've encountered all sorts of positions of card and Telepass booths, in north too. Don't have pictures, though.


Ontopic - Few toll stations in Slovenia:
A1, Videž toll station:


A1, Kompolje toll station:


A2, Drnovo toll station:


A2, Dob toll station:
Going fast lane with electronic system ABC


H4, Nanos toll station:
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Old February 7th, 2008, 02:25 AM   #104
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In the Netherlands there are no toll roads and only 2 tunnels are tolled. The Westerscheldetunnel and the Kiltunnel

Toll gate at the Westerscheldetunnel:






source: www.westerscheldetunnel.nl

Toll gate Kiltunnel:

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Old February 7th, 2008, 05:46 AM   #105
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In Ontario there is only one toll road (and I think it is the only one in all of Canada, but correct me if I'm wrong), and it is Highway 407 north of Toronto. It does not have any toll gates, but rather takes a picture of the car's license plate and later mails the bill to the driver, or, the driver can subscribe to a transponder device, which operates remotely and there is no need for the license plate picture. The entrance to the road is therefore done at the same speed as on non-tolled highways, although the rates tend to be somewhat expensive.

So this would be the equivalent of the toll booth:
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Old February 7th, 2008, 07:21 AM   #106
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There are no toll roads in Connecticut here in the states, therefore no toll gates. The state did once have toll roads in the past, but got rid of them because of problems. Every few years, there are plans to bring them back, but they always go nowhere. Consequently, our fuel taxes are higher than our neighbors, and one of the highest in the nation.

CT is the only state in the Northeast Corridor (DC to Boston) without any tolls.

However, on northbound I-95 in New York near the border, there is a $1 toll. It's a little bit more interesting looking than most toll gates that are, IMO, nothing to talk about really. It even has a large I-95 sign painted on!



Another toll gate near the CT border on I-84 in Massachusetts. This connects with I-90, the Mass Turnpike, which goes to either Albany and Springfield, or Boston. Unlike the NY tollgate, when coming into the turnpike, you don't pay, you get a ticket and pay when you get off the turnpike. I love that we have to pay a toll in these states near the border, while their residents get to drive free on ours.


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I love that we have to pay a toll in these states near the border, while their residents get to drive free on ours.
I heard tolls in western Massachusetts were cancelled on the I-90 because local drivers didn't want to pay for the Big Dig they don't use.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:18 PM   #108
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CHriss, where exactly is Kiltunnel located?
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Near Dordrecht, it's a regional road, not very important
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Old February 7th, 2008, 03:07 PM   #110
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CHriss, where exactly is Kiltunnel located?


It's the main port to 'de Hoeksche Waard'. There are no ferries here. Toll isn't very high, I thought something like €2.
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i have allready found it, tnx
well, 2€ for 900 m long tunnel isn't low. citizens of 's Gravendeel are definitly unhappy because of that toll
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That's the whole problem with our geography, all river crossings are the only way out of there, while they are all bottlenecks.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #113
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I heard tolls in western Massachusetts were cancelled on the I-90 because local drivers didn't want to pay for the Big Dig they don't use.
I think that there are still some gates on some of the exits. That one is still there.

But the main toll gates are in the Boston area, yes. And they still drive on our roads for free!
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A1 or A10 in France:
OMG! Excellent automatic tolling systems have existed for at least 15 years now. I don't understand why there is still so many manual toll stations around. Why the hell does the French, who otherwise is hooked on technolgy, put up with queues like the one above? Maybe there are no French company in the bussiness....
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Well, because a lot of traffic on the French Autoroutes is foreign. You can't expect them to have all kinds of electronic tolling systems on board.
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They could come up with a European toll pass. Texas has a statewide toll pass system which can be used in Austin, Dallas or Houston even though they all pretty much use different systems. EZ-Tag in Houston and Toll-Tag in Dallas.
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Well, because a lot of traffic on the French Autoroutes is foreign. You can't expect them to have all kinds of electronic tolling systems on board.
I doubt that a majority of those cars are foreign. Besides, you don't need a chip to pass a fully automatic toll station. Many toll stations in Norway are now equipped with this sign:

Regardless if you have a chip or not, you are supposed to drive through the toll station without stopping. If you don't have a chip, your license plate is automatically analyzed, and you have the choise of paying the fee next time you fill gas or alternatively you can pay an invoice that will be sent to your home address. Also foreign cars are billed this way.
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France is an important transit country, and trucks usually prefer the Autoroute. Besides that, France is a major touristic destination, attracting millions of foreigners per year who travel by car.

The Paying Tolls At The Gas Station is an interesting concept by the way.
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E-toll in Melbourne

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In Australia toll roads have been built exclusively as e-toll for the last 10 years. Many toll plazas are due to be replaced with e-toll gantries in the coming years.
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They could come up with a European toll pass. Texas has a statewide toll pass system which can be used in Austin, Dallas or Houston even though they all pretty much use different systems. EZ-Tag in Houston and Toll-Tag in Dallas.
Is this Texas thing compatible in all US states? Probably not.
And Europe has the same problem to introduce EU-wide compatible electronic toll system. EU Commission demands interoperability (satellite based system), but it is far from being available. When that becomes available, toll stations will become obsolete. But I'm afraid, that this will not happen in next 10 years.
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