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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:38 PM   #81
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The architects are Kohn Pederson Fox (the same people who designed the Shanghai World Financial Center).
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:40 PM   #82
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I think the square mile of London proper doesn't need any more tall buildings. London is London and I'd hate to see it look like an English Chicago. Build all the tall buildings in the docklands.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #83
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too late matey boy ! supply and demand and all that
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:48 PM   #84
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restrictions on tall buildings in the core worked for Paris. . . If St.Pauls was in a canon of steel and glass would London still be London?
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:52 PM   #85
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:56 PM   #86
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restrictions on tall buildings in the core worked for Paris. . . If St.Pauls was in a canon of steel and glass would London still be London?
That would never happen - these skyscrapers are only gettng building in areas where they do not interupt the sightlines from areas around London, eg Greenwich Park.

Also no skyscrapers would dare be built around St Paul's, infact what is happening is that density is being lost around St Paul's to open it up more to the surrounding area and being added on the other side of the City of London - the buildings being replaced are 60's concrete glass and steel monolothic structures that are eye-sores, so no loss there and instead London gets a massive new signature skyscraper that compliments not goes against St Paul's.

Also Paris is a city that is stagnating because of far too strict planning guidelines, I believe the City of Paris mayor even tried to get skyscrapers built on the City of Paris side next to La Defense but that aint going to happen anytime soon.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:59 PM   #87
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restrictions on tall buildings in the core worked for Paris. . . If St.Pauls was in a canon of steel and glass would London still be London?
Yes, since the City cluster is comfortably far away from St Pauls and other heritage sites. A true world city never languishes as a massive historical souvenir, but rather evolves as times pass. High-rise construction interferes with continuity, but not the actual urban fabric.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 09:07 PM   #88
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The irony is, is that Haussmann demolished over 60% of medieval Paris and it could be said that London contains more historic buildings than Paris, the reason it doesn't look like that is because of the different planning styles and of course the Luftwaffe.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 09:13 PM   #89
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woow!! let's build this !!
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Old June 29th, 2005, 10:51 PM   #90
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Amazing design! I have now drawn it for the diagram.

The only bad thing is that Swiss Re is hidden from that angle.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 01:53 AM   #91
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Despite my rather obvious reserved judgement of this tower's dominance over the city, I must say I'm hooked on the base, very delicate looking, kind of related to Swiss Re without being too similair..

I think I know what my problem is with it after seeing that close up, I just think despite being so tall, it just appears to be so chunky, it needs a smaller floorplate IMO..Uhm, it seems with new renders comes more liking on my behalf so, maybe I just need a good half dozen renders..
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Old June 30th, 2005, 02:02 AM   #92
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Gawd that render looks like a ladies skirt being lift up.

Jeez an Helter Skelter with a skirt. Get real people, this is some architects wet dream, and London has far too many of them at the moment.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 02:03 AM   #93
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If they build this, it will be one of the best new buildings in the country.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 02:41 AM   #94
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they do!
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Old June 30th, 2005, 02:48 AM   #95
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when construction will start???
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Old June 30th, 2005, 07:41 AM   #96
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This is a glass erector set with a helter-skelter dumped on top of it. But ooooh,err missus, it's tall, ain't it? So everybody lurves it!!!
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Old June 30th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #97
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that base is just awesome!!!
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Old June 30th, 2005, 02:55 PM   #98
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If they build this, it will be one of the best new buildings in the country.
if not the world....

Europe at least.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 03:09 PM   #99
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Despite my rather obvious reserved judgement of this tower's dominance over the city, I must say I'm hooked on the base, very delicate looking, kind of related to Swiss Re without being too similair..

I think I know what my problem is with it after seeing that close up, I just think despite being so tall, it just appears to be so chunky, it needs a smaller floorplate IMO..Uhm, it seems with new renders comes more liking on my behalf so, maybe I just need a good half dozen renders..
I'm with you ferge, I agreed with your comments on the UK thread about it being a little Moscow but I'm definately warming to it after seeing that stunning base. For me I think I was ary that detail had been forsaken for shape but I think that was perhaps a little unfounded now. Another half dozen renders and i'll be loving it
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Old June 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM   #100
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Following on from Shaun's comments about the difference of the wrapped bit at the top. It looks odd that the spiral is curvy at the top but a straight diagonal edge on the south (river) side. I think it should be curved all the way, it would look less chunky on the southside and more elegant and slender.
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