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Old August 30th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #1101
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I wouldn't go that far... but London is doing well for itself.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #1102
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With Heron Tower, the Shard and now this tower, London seems to be breaking one speed record after another, easily rivaling the construction pace of Dubai and China...
Not at all - just go onto skyscraperpage to see how much more there is in Dubai or China
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Old August 30th, 2010, 12:55 PM   #1103
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I think both of you didn't properly read what I wrote. When I said "construction pace" I was obviously referring to the speed of the individual projects (as the first half of my sentence should have made clear), not the pace at which new projects come to be.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #1104
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This will be the Shard of the City, two rivals overlooking eachother.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 05:54 PM   #1105
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It's become a bit of a lughing matter to me now with how much construction is going on all over the world in very random cities. I mean some nowhere places in China are building 2000ft scrapers!! How the hell they make that pay is beyond me even with cheap labour! Construction economics seems to be a side issue!

Think how long we waited for LBT and yet random boxes are going up as 'foot buildings' at 1050ft/1100ft in China to their bigger brother centre pieces which seem to be going into hypertall mode!
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Old August 30th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #1106
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This will be the Shard of the City, two rivals overlooking eachother.
Just thinking it will be very interesting on the skyline because AOD these two buildings will be a lot closer in height to each other than the 73ft roof height differential would suggest!
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Old August 30th, 2010, 09:26 PM   #1107
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I agree, the construction sector should never get too large, especially when we are talking about skyscrapers. Building randomly is very dangerous because eventually an economic downturn will arrive and the fall is big.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 11:47 PM   #1108
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I agree, the construction sector should never get too large, especially when we are talking about skyscrapers. Building randomly is very dangerous because eventually an economic downturn will arrive and the fall is big.
Thing is, an economic collapse is the least China should worry about. Just look at their surpluses! They managed to endure the recent recession unscathed.

Dubai I am a little worried about, though. The vacancy rates there are beyond imaginable yet they continue to build.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 11:23 AM   #1109
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I mean some nowhere places in China are building 2000ft scrapers!!
Calling Shanghai and Shenzhen "nowhere places" makes your attempt at trolling a tad too transparent, don't you think? Always keep in mind that subtlety is the key to successful internet trolling.
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Old August 31st, 2010, 11:27 AM   #1110
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I think both of you didn't properly read what I wrote. When I said "construction pace" I was obviously referring to the speed of the individual projects (as the first half of my sentence should have made clear), not the pace at which new projects come to be.
Oh yes.. obviously..
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:15 PM   #1111
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Calling Shanghai and Shenzhen "nowhere places" makes your attempt at trolling a tad too transparent, don't you think? Always keep in mind that subtlety is the key to successful internet trolling.
Oh c'mon, give the guy a break.

You can see what he means. The large majority of people have probably never heard of these cities. And by these cities, I'm not talking about Shanghai and Shenzhen, I'm talking about the smaller Chinese cities that RichW1 was probably referring too, for example, Chengdu, Dalian, Wuhan, Nanjing.etc
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Old August 31st, 2010, 01:52 PM   #1112
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None of these cities happen to be building towers above 2,000ft or 600m, that's why I named only Shanghai and Shenzen, currently the only two cities building towers of such height.

On a sidenote, people who've never heard of Nanjing should really brush up on their WW2 history, it's as notable a name there as Pearl Harbour, Stalingrad or Auschwitz.

In all fairness you do have a point of course. There are quite a few cities in China that I hadn't heard about before I joined this forum. Checking up on some of them on Wikipedia however I was surprised that most of them have more inhabitants than many major cities in North America. In the United States some people with a quarter million inhabitants have skylines with buildings above 200m, so it makes sense that a Chinese city with ten times as many inhabitants would build supertall...
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Old August 31st, 2010, 05:05 PM   #1113
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Thing is, an economic collapse is the least China should worry about. Just look at their surpluses! They managed to endure the recent recession unscathed.

Dubai I am a little worried about, though. The vacancy rates there are beyond imaginable yet they continue to build.
I wasn't talking particularly about China but I don't think that building ramdomly is very good in the long run, even for China.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 12:22 AM   #1114
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Old September 1st, 2010, 12:27 AM   #1115
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This video shows the tower once built in it's surroundings - from BBC Britain from above -

http://www.londonandnyc.com/2010/08/...cityscape.html
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Old September 1st, 2010, 01:12 AM   #1116
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Oh c'mon, give the guy a break.

You can see what he means. The large majority of people have probably never heard of these cities. And by these cities, I'm not talking about Shanghai and Shenzhen, I'm talking about the smaller Chinese cities that RichW1 was probably referring too, for example, Chengdu, Dalian, Wuhan, Nanjing.etc
Thanks Jayo, that was exactly what I meant! To be fair I did go a little over the top with 2000ft but those 'random cities' I was referring to that you mentioned do have ranges from 1076 ft in Wuxi to 1,972ft in Mecca. Hardly global financial household names to be home to such heights!!

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None of these cities happen to be building towers above 2,000ft or 600m, that's why I named only Shanghai and Shenzen, currently the only two cities building towers of such height.

On a sidenote, people who've never heard of Nanjing should really brush up on their WW2 history, it's as notable a name there as Pearl Harbour, Stalingrad or Auschwitz.

In all fairness you do have a point of course. There are quite a few cities in China that I hadn't heard about before I joined this forum. Checking up on some of them on Wikipedia however I was surprised that most of them have more inhabitants than many major cities in North America. In the United States some people with a quarter million inhabitants have skylines with buildings above 200m, so it makes sense that a Chinese city with ten times as many inhabitants would build supertall...
ok to be fair you have a point with the 2000ft marker as I've said above, but also read above you'll get my point.
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Old September 1st, 2010, 09:04 AM   #1117
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Really good looking video. I especially like it after 45 seconds when you see all the glory in one shot.

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This video shows the tower once built in it's surroundings - from BBC Britain from above -

http://www.londonandnyc.com/2010/08/...cityscape.html
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Old September 1st, 2010, 01:24 PM   #1118
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Just came back from London ...

and I made it all to the top of Saint Paul's Cathedral where I could make some new pictures on this trip and I was myself very much amazed at the fast pace London is changing and getting ready to become the New York of Europe, which it already is.

I ll post some pics soon ...
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Old September 1st, 2010, 04:54 PM   #1119
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The core has apparently started rising, verified by two forumers. No pictures yet. Doubt it will be long though
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Old September 1st, 2010, 05:23 PM   #1120
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I ll post some pics soon ...
Looking forward for them. As Heron Tower steps down from the spotlight, this one replaces it.
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