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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:00 AM   #141
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That Mayoral PDF is from Dec showing the original scheme- This scheme was resubmitted since then
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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:45 AM   #142
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The 305 metre version looks so much better, 288 looks a bit silly, too fat & stumpy looking.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 03:50 AM   #143
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Well it's a shame they lowered it, but ever since they first unveiled plans for the tower it became a favorite of mine, it's a true beauty, it's a little thicker now, but nonetheless the best tower to be built for London, even better than LBT IMO
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Old March 13th, 2006, 04:23 AM   #144
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It's the crack...
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Old March 13th, 2006, 04:29 AM   #145
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So hang on..........just to clarify........

Is the building 288 or 305????????????????????????????????
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Old March 13th, 2006, 05:01 AM   #146
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IT IS 288M

This PDF is the Mayors planning report which is dated for December & this mayoral planning decisions look at previous months applications so it would be commenting onthe original proposal fro the summer of 05. The revised height of 288m was submitted after this.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 06:30 AM   #147
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It kind of looks eastern European in design.

So how many floors?
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Old March 13th, 2006, 05:26 PM   #148
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Quote:
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That Mayoral PDF is from Dec showing the original scheme- This scheme was resubmitted since then
But I don't see why CAA would make them lower the tower to 288m when they themselves say 305m is an acceptable height. Why did they make them change it twice.

And is the only thing we are actually going on that render?
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Old March 15th, 2006, 02:40 AM   #149
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Oh shit!
I thought the tower was going to be 305m tall
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Old April 18th, 2006, 12:43 AM   #150
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A new, slightly better rendering. This is viewed from the balcony on St Paul's Cathedral:-

[img]http://i3.************/vqr0hj.jpg[/img]
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Old April 18th, 2006, 01:27 AM   #151
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Thats an old render, wjfox. nonetheless, nobody should have seen it unless they've already viewed it on emporis.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 01:29 AM   #152
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Can you possibly include the refurbished version of the Old Stock Exchange tower in that view Wjfox?

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Old April 18th, 2006, 09:36 AM   #153
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This is very impressive,Wjfox2002
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Old April 19th, 2006, 07:45 PM   #154
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The more I see new renders of this tower the more I like it.Thanks for the render Wjfox
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:45 PM   #155
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I am wondering if this project so far has started construction yet.
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:48 PM   #156
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that would be grand, but it hasn't been approved yet
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:51 PM   #157
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that would be grand, but it hasn't been approved yet
Oh! well, we have to wait a bit longer for it.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:56 PM   #158
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The official planning decision is due tomorrow:


"...22-24 BISHOPSGATE, 38 BISHOPSGATE AND 4 CROSBY SQUARE

For Decision

Demolition and redevelopment to provide a building arranged on 2 basement floors, ground and 59 upper floors (including 6 plant floors) comprising floorspace for use within Classes B1 and A of the use Classes Order; the creation of new public realm and pedestrian routes; the provision of ancillary servicing and other works incidental to the development. (135,511 sq.m.)..."



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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:57 PM   #159
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Recommendation: planning permission be granted


http://www.minutes.org.uk/cgi-bin/cg...1892,0,00,00,N

The proposed building has two basements, ground and 59 upper floors (the top 6 would be occupied by plant). It is 287.9m high (304.9m AOD), which is similar to the “Shard” proposed at London Bridge. It would be 100m higher than any existing office building in the City and approximately 64m higher than the next highest office building proposed in the City at 122 Leadenhall Street. The application originally proposed 63 upper floors and a height of 324.25m AOD but this was reduced to the current proposal following objections on aircraft safety grounds by the London City Airport and BAA.

14. Between this tower building and 6-8 Bishopsgate there would be what the architects call the “Sliver” building. This fills a gap caused by the form of the tower and would be 12 storeys high. It would be linked to the main building and would provide part of the office, retail and plant accommodation.

15. An “Annexe” building would occupy a re-entrant between 1 Great St Helen’s and the link road into Crosby Square. This would be equivalent to the height of 1 Great St Helen’s (10 storeys) but would contain only a void, providing air-intake to the basements of the tower.

16. The tower would taper as it rises and the top third spirals up to a point. At the base the cladding fans out into a “skirt” that projects over the public footways and Crosby Square at a height that varies from approximately 6m to 15m. This “skirt” is an integral part of the design but its main function is to deflect wind away from the ground.

17. Groups of passenger lifts serve the lower, mid and high rise portions of the building and are connected by transfer lobbies at various levels. The office reception is at 1st floor accessed from ground level by escalators and lifts. From the first floor reception the main lifts provide access to various parts of the office accommodation. The upper floors include “sky lobbies” with conference facilities at levels 20 & 21 and public restaurants at levels 42 & 43.

18. Office floors vary in size and range from 2,360sq.m net at level 4 to 549s.q.m net at level 53. Most of the floors can be sub-divided into two independent tenancy units. The architects say that the geometric form of the building creates many rooms with spectacular views across London.

19. Three levels of retail accommodation are located on ground, first and second floors providing space for a combination of shop (A1) and catering (A3/A4) uses. The public restaurants on the 42 and 43 sky lobby floors are served by dedicated lifts from ground level.

20. There are two levels of basement containing servicing facilities, parking and plant accommodation. Servicing would take place via two vehicle lifts from Undershaft. A courier delivery facility is provided at ground level adjacent to these lifts.

21. The only car parking is six disabled user spaces. No motor cycle parking is proposed. Parking for approximately 540 bicycles is included at basement level, accessed by stairs with ramps from a freestanding entrance pavilion at the corner of Bishopsgate and Great St Helen’s.

22. A wide new pedestrian way is proposed under the building leading to the present location of Crosby Square and on down to Undershaft, via a curving ramp. This would all become a public space with seating, a water feature and public art. Some of the new retail space, including a cafe with external seating would front onto this space.

23. The applicants propose to change the status of Crosby Square from public highway and to manage all of the new open space themselves, but providing public access at all times.

24. The City Walkway bridge and stair would be demolished and not replaced.

25. The proposed floorspace is:

Gross external Net internal

Offices 126,187 sq.m 76,397 sq.m

Conference facilities 2,332 sq m 989 sq.m

Retail at lower levels 3,984 sq.m 2,026 sq.m

Restaurants at levels 42 & 43 2,248 sq.m 1,008 sq.m

Air intake in annexe building 760 sq.m

Total gross external 135,511 sq.m
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Old April 24th, 2006, 01:57 AM   #160
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Come on son!! After what seems like decades of waiting, we are at the crunch stage, prepare to pop open the chamapaign bottles lads! Man, I'm so delighted about this news, give us a hug Foxy

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