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Old April 12th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #1881
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The more time goes by the more I'm skeptical about this beauty getting built one day...
London has had countless projects like this in the past 10 years. For a long time the Shard would never be built, the Walkie Talkie would never be built, St George Wharf was a thing of the past...well apparently not.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #1882
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This is such a gorgeous building, i really hope it gets built.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #1883
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Thought it had started ? / Je croyais que la construction avait débuté ?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 03:21 PM   #1884
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Thought it had started ? / Je croyais que la construction avait débuté ?
It had, the core got to level 8 before the building was put on hold, even when the finance was at its most secure is was painfully slow progress
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Old April 13th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #1885
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I'm wondering if there are some 'design issues' also hampering progress...
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Old April 21st, 2012, 06:17 PM   #1886
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Is this going to restart in Jan 2013? Is it definitaly going to be built, because surely it will, with 8 floors completed, I can't see them just smashing it down or leaving it like this.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 03:22 AM   #1887
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Is this going to restart in Jan 2013? Is it definitaly going to be built, because surely it will, with 8 floors completed, I can't see them just smashing it down or leaving it like this.

It would cost them too much to rip it up! This building has the deepest piling of any building in London!! They will just wait for prelets to come.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:06 PM   #1888
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It would cost them too much to rip it up! This building has the deepest piling of any building in London!! They will just wait for prelets to come.
So it WILL be built, even if it's finished the year 2030????
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Old April 24th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #1889
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Hmm lets wait and see. I have heard rumours that this one is getting a complete redesign. Whether that would mean knocking down the core and starting again, who knows, as in theory a new building could utilise the foundations and core currently in place...
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Old April 26th, 2012, 12:01 PM   #1890
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A redesign would be a disgrace! I don't wanna see one of Europe's best skyscraper designs ever created die
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Old April 26th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #1891
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Perhaps if the redesign is a slight height increase? to nudge it into the supertall category? we can only wish..
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Old April 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM   #1892
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Is this going to restart in Jan 2013? Is it definitaly going to be built, because surely it will, with 8 floors completed, I can't see them just smashing it down or leaving it like this.
Lots of buildings begin construction and are left to rot.

Birminghams twin Snow Hill Towers got up to around the 6th floor before the recession hit.

The scheme is now being re-evaluated and different designs being throught up.

The use has now changed from residential and hotel to offices.

This isn't unthinkable.

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Old April 26th, 2012, 02:26 PM   #1893
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The only thing they are waiting for on this project is people to pre let it...

It has full funding.. It will resume when the market for office space grows some balls again.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 02:30 PM   #1894
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The only thing they are waiting for on this project is people to pre let it...

It has full funding.. It will resume when the market for office space grows some balls again.
Concrete weathers/rots.

Substantial work would need to be undertaken on the existing structure to resume work if it was due to begin in Jan 2013.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #1895
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@Ecological why are those pictures in this thread? they are not the pics of The Pinnacle, are they?
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Old April 26th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #1896
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[QUOTE=Ecological;90818616]Lots of buildings begin construction and are left to rot.

Birminghams twin Snow Hill Towers got up to around the 6th floor before the recession hit. /QUOTE]

Yeah, but this is different, this in the very middle of the city of London, they surely can't leave it like this in this location? They will want to be building something here as soon as possible won't they?
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Old April 26th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #1897
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@Ecological why are those pictures in this thread? they are not the pics of The Pinnacle, are they?
If you read the accompanying text and the posts before hand you'll find they're relevant to the discussion of the Pinnacle.
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Old April 27th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #1898
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Yeah, but this is different, this in the very middle of the city of London, they surely can't leave it like this in this location? They will want to be building something here as soon as possible won't they?
Not really. Snow Hill is in the very heart of Birmingham's financial district.

a 75m office block is construction right next door to the rotting core I mentioned above.

Everyone wants a building thats U/C to be built as soon as possible, but if funding doesn't allow it nor the needs for it, it simply won't go up.
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Old April 27th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #1899
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London's quite a bit different to Birmingham though mate..
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Old April 27th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #1900
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London's quite a bit different to Birmingham though mate..
There are many similarities, albeit on a smaller scale.

Birmingham's towers were different in that they were residential and hotel.

As the city is now short of Grade A office space, these are now being "REDESIGNED" to accommodate the change of use.

it "COULD" mean the demolition of the current core.

E.G I'm explaining to you what "MIGHT" happen with The Pinnacle.

Don't get so frigging defensive and take things on board. It's not an attempt to belittle this fantastic tower. It's just letting newbies like yourself what could "POTENTIALLY" happen.

Take things on board and learn.

It's an example of the "POSSIBILITIES"

Snowhill is now being completely redesigned instigated by the change of use from resi to office based floor plates. It should involve the demolishing of the currently standing cores to podium level and starting over.

In temrs of the Pinnacle. Rebar is usually surface rusted when concrete is poured and that is perfectly acceptable.

The only checks that will be required are whether water ingress at the top of the cores has excessively corroded the bars within the top of the concrete. If thats the case, some localised scabbling of the joint will be required. If the rebar is OK then all they'll do is blast the joints with a power-washer or a gritblaster (depending on how much pigeon shit is on it) and then just carry on!

COR-TEN is the most common type of weathering steel. Effectively the current completed Pinnacle structure needs nothing more than the equivalent of a quick brush off and construction can re-commence

Rebar steel does corrode and cannot be left forvever though. It should be capped off with concrete to ensure it does not corrode and can't be used to continue construction.

Snow Hill has been stood for 4 years now. With funding, nor pre-lets being established for the Pinnacle I honestly suspect a redesign will take place.
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