Beetham Tower Manchester part 5 (157m) - Page 5

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 08:19 PM

Just had a look at HCT in brum and there are just a few of the upper floors with those panel things left in the windows, most have been removed . Subtract you corrected me about the Manc tower ...so why do you say they permanant .or will they put them back in at HCT...mmm..

Jerv · July 11th, 2005, 08:26 PM

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerv

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

I am not talking about the actual cladding but those square panels that cover half the window on the clear panes and appear behind the glass. Theses are what have been removed on the brum tower but subtract are implying that thay are permanent on the manc tower.Its quite important as they will have an effect on how the tower will look. They are not on the original renderings either....although we all know how the real thing can be so different.After seeing the brum tower I will stick my neck out again and they are temp.

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerv

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

I am not talking about the actual cladding but those square panels that cover half the window on the clear panes and appear behind the glass. Theses are what have been removed on the brum tower but subtract are implying that thay are permanent on the manc tower.Its quite important as they will have an big effect on how the tower will look. They are not on the original renderings either....although we all know how the real thing can be so different.After seeing the brum tower I will stick my neck out again say and they are temp.

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 09:01 PM

sorry double post!

caw123 · July 11th, 2005, 09:09 PM

Yeah you're right oscar, the stuff they've got there now is not permanent, it's flimsy, some of it is crumpled and has a companys name and logo on it.

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Originally Posted by andysimo

Somebody really must get a pic from down Ashton Old Road. Go about 3/4 the way up and for about 400 meters the views are amazing. It looks MASSIVE. Its like an illusion because it looks so big.

dj posted a photo from there yesterday!

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerv

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

The ones subtract were refering to are panels behind the glass . Which have been all but removed on HCT. Why are they 'very permanant' as he says on the manc tower.

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 09:16 PM

Thanks caw...I knew I was right

Jerv · July 11th, 2005, 09:25 PM

To be fair they don't look permanent, but I am just going off the pics posted on this forum. They may however be permanent but wrapped in protective sheeting.

Subtract: Are the 'fins' up the side a standard product or have they been fabricated to unique ISA drawings. Very expensive I would imagine.

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 09:26 PM

I didnt see the tower so close on saturday and from where I was standing those panels looked solid. But i did notice a few peeling thats why I thought it was strange when subtract said that they where permanant.

future.architect · July 11th, 2005, 09:36 PM

i'm no expert but at first glance those pannels look just like that sort of courigated plastic sheeting that you get? i think that it is being used to protect the glass pannels while the interior is fitted out, from some of the photos you can see where it is taped to the glass.

edit: its bleadingly obvious!

oscar9 · July 11th, 2005, 10:12 PM

Subtract must have thought I was referring to the complete opaque panels that are part of the striped pattern.Hope there's no gloating when it surpasses HCT in a couple of weeks lol

andysimo123 · July 12th, 2005, 10:11 AM

So he has.

rolybling · July 12th, 2005, 01:21 PM

This morning

Accura4Matalan · July 12th, 2005, 01:38 PM

OMG! True scraper or what!

The scale of it in that pic is amazing. Thanks

Gavin · July 12th, 2005, 01:59 PM

the hordings for the building on the opposite side of deansgate now have lovely pictures on them including one of the building which is due to start immenently. Its 'sold' in design but nothing special

caw123 · July 12th, 2005, 04:53 PM

DOKA seems to have risen in the past couple of days. rolybling, nice pic mate but the left side is very blurred, is your lens dirty???

Took a few photos today too
A photo vantage point blantantly nicked off Aidan

Collossal

Looking out of a window in my house yesterday, I saw something move above a group of trees in the distance. Grabbed the camera and zoomed in on the 'thing'. Uploaded the photo: it's the tips of the Beetham cranes.

highriser · July 12th, 2005, 05:13 PM

3 cracker's there Chris , this building is going to change the face of Manchester so much, more than we already think ,
Subs says this weekend it will surpass CIS,just think of it with another 50m extra (including the blade)its going to be awsome.

Chris that third pic of yours from the Moho apartments, do you know if anything is earmarked for the building's on the other side of the road, the Compass site and that tatty building next door?

Accura4Matalan · July 12th, 2005, 05:18 PM

Excellent pics caw. Love the third one

Subtract · July 12th, 2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerv

To be fair they don't look permanent, but I am just going off the pics posted on this forum. They may however be permanent but wrapped in protective sheeting.

Subtract: Are the 'fins' up the side a standard product or have they been fabricated to unique ISA drawings. Very expensive I would imagine.

Right bit of confusion there, i thought for some reason that people were referring to the 'fins' that are inbetween the glass which are very permanant as its been discussed before about their uses. As for originality..... no idea! i pass BTM every day and see it every day but I stopped 'looking' at it months ago if you know what I mean(?) I could never get sick of looking at the building or its fine details but Im currently working on 4 other projects so my concentration & time is elsewhere.

Im gutted that I havent even had time to go to the top this week as the weather has been amazing, ive had my site pass ages and only been on site once! were very very busy here!

July 11th, 2005, 09:36 PM	#91
future.architect Far East London Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5,082 Likes (Received): 91	mystery white panels i'm no expert but at first glance those pannels look just like that sort of courigated plastic sheeting that you get? i think that it is being used to protect the glass pannels while the interior is fitted out, from some of the photos you can see where it is taped to the glass. edit: its bleadingly obvious! __________________ ΓΝΩΘΙ ΣΕΑΥΤΟΝ Last edited by future.architect; July 11th, 2005 at 10:44 PM. Reason: its bleadingly obvious!

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Accura4Matalan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Preston, England/Colwyn Bay, North Wales Posts: 11,838 Likes (Received): 42	OMG! True scraper or what! The scale of it in that pic is amazing. Thanks __________________ Preston Projects List Updated 11th September 2010

July 12th, 2005, 04:53 PM	#97
caw123 Hit the north! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,697 Likes (Received): 0	DOKA seems to have risen in the past couple of days. rolybling, nice pic mate but the left side is very blurred, is your lens dirty??? Took a few photos today too A photo vantage point blantantly nicked off Aidan Collossal Looking out of a window in my house yesterday, I saw something move above a group of trees in the distance. Grabbed the camera and zoomed in on the 'thing'. Uploaded the photo: it's the tips of the Beetham cranes. __________________ Bespoke Upper Torso Coverage Solutions *"Manchester is located in the center of Lancashire plain in northwestern England like a big circle theatre."*

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Accura4Matalan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Preston, England/Colwyn Bay, North Wales Posts: 11,838 Likes (Received): 42	Excellent pics caw. Love the third one __________________ Preston Projects List Updated 11th September 2010

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July 11th, 2005, 08:19 PM	#81
oscar9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,250 Likes (Received): 39	Just had a look at HCT in brum and there are just a few of the upper floors with those panel things left in the windows, most have been removed . Subtract you corrected me about the Manc tower ...so why do you say they permanant .or will they put them back in at HCT...mmm..

July 11th, 2005, 08:26 PM	#82
Jerv Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,057 Likes (Received): 0	I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

July 11th, 2005, 09:01 PM	#85
oscar9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,250 Likes (Received): 39	sorry double post!

July 11th, 2005, 09:16 PM	#88
oscar9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,250 Likes (Received): 39	Thanks caw...I knew I was right

July 11th, 2005, 09:25 PM	#89
Jerv Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,057 Likes (Received): 0	To be fair they don't look permanent, but I am just going off the pics posted on this forum. They may however be permanent but wrapped in protective sheeting. Subtract: Are the 'fins' up the side a standard product or have they been fabricated to unique ISA drawings. Very expensive I would imagine.

July 11th, 2005, 09:26 PM	#90
oscar9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,250 Likes (Received): 39	I didnt see the tower so close on saturday and from where I was standing those panels looked solid. But i did notice a few peeling thats why I thought it was strange when subtract said that they where permanant.

July 11th, 2005, 10:12 PM	#92
oscar9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,250 Likes (Received): 39	Subtract must have thought I was referring to the complete opaque panels that are part of the striped pattern.Hope there's no gloating when it surpasses HCT in a couple of weeks lol

July 12th, 2005, 10:11 AM	#93
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,877 Likes (Received): 8	So he has.

July 12th, 2005, 01:21 PM	#94
rolybling CAN'T BE ARSED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 4,859 Likes (Received): 0	This morning

July 12th, 2005, 01:59 PM	#96
Gavin SSC Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manchester / Abu Dhabi Posts: 694 Likes (Received): 8	the hordings for the building on the opposite side of deansgate now have lovely pictures on them including one of the building which is due to start immenently. Its 'sold' in design but nothing special

July 12th, 2005, 05:13 PM	#98
highriser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,233 Likes (Received): 3	3 cracker's there Chris , this building is going to change the face of Manchester so much, more than we already think , Subs says this weekend it will surpass CIS,just think of it with another 50m extra (including the blade)its going to be awsome. Chris that third pic of yours from the Moho apartments, do you know if anything is earmarked for the building's on the other side of the road, the Compass site and that tatty building next door?