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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:40 PM   #21
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Copenhagen has platform doors. The Turin metro will have them, too.
All VAL systems have them.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 12:17 AM   #22
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well,.. I dont like them. You feel like youre closed into something.. and cannot scream over to the other side of the platform..

This is a nice station.. Nydalen station: No walls between platforms and tracks. Nice, tidy and safe!... With red lights in the platform blinking when the subway arrives...




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Old June 29th, 2005, 12:48 AM   #23
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St Petersburg has windowless steel doors in some stations, not very inviting.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 12:51 AM   #24
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IMO, I think Hong Kong has the nicest screen doors.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 01:46 AM   #25
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London, just 8 stations all on the Jubilee Line

(Westminster, Waterloo, Southwark, London Bridge, Bermondsey, Canada Water, Canary Wharf, North Greenwich)

I'm not aware of any plans to retro-fit any more... Although the Central and Victoria Lines are prime candidates as they're both fully automatic.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 01:59 AM   #26
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An interesting subject! I made a webpage from the information in this forum thread:

http://mic-ro.com/metro/platform-screen-doors.html

I hope to get the list complete sometime...
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:03 AM   #27
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All monorails have some sort of barrier (gate or edge door)- it's a long way down to the street! since there's no "railbed".

In cold climates or very hot climates, the platform edge doors allows the station to be heated or air conditioned.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:30 AM   #28
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Barcelona (lines 5 and 11; under construction in lines 9 and 10)
Micro, in Barcelona, lines 5 and 11 are being retrofitted with platform screen doors(PSD), so don't have them yet.
Also, in lines 9 and 10, it's not the PSD which are under construction... it's the lines themselves.

Just to make it more clear.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:46 AM   #29
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IMO, I think Hong Kong has the nicest screen doors.
I agree, but London and Paris also have some nice PSD.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:55 AM   #30
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Not in USA, just only in Las Vegas (full) and Seattle (gate).
Um, NYC has PSD on the AirTrains.



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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:15 AM   #31
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The Sea-Tac airport loop automated subway has screen doors, too.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 09:10 AM   #32
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All monorails have some sort of barrier (gate or edge door)- it's a long way down to the street! since there's no "railbed".

In cold climates or very hot climates, the platform edge doors allows the station to be heated or air conditioned.

You're right about the climate thingy. I can't imagine how hot the subway stations would be if Singapore's and KL's do not have these platform doors.

I do not recall any barrier at the monorail stations in Sydney and Walt Disney World but both the monorail systems in Malaysia (and even the one at Sentosa, Singapore) do not have such barrier. This is because all monorail stations have a platform beneath the rail just like a regular metro's.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 09:12 AM   #33
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Taipei claims the world's first retrofit programme too? Tsk tsk tsk...
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Old June 29th, 2005, 09:18 AM   #34
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Thats just scary. What if a train stops in the tunnell or a fire breaks loose? I dont like such stations at all. They look futuristic and nice, but safe, nono..

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IN fact the main contribution of platform screen doors to commuters are in fact safety and not aesthetics as many would have thought. Especially in the case of fire.

When an underground train goes thru a tunnel, it pushes a large volume of air in front. When there is a fire in any part of the tunnel or in any station, such rush of air would result in an explosion. Furthermore it prevents people from going too near the train when it is in motion or to jump onto the track.

I have seen a documentary on platform screen doors before (on Discovery Channel I think) and they enhances the safety and aesthetics of a rail system.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 12:25 PM   #35
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I don't have a problem with them, prevents accidents and suicides. I think theyr'e a nice feature.

But speaking from my rail enthusiast point of view, I hate em' because I can't get up nice n close to the train, especially when an express speeds through the station
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:57 PM   #36
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Copenhagen has platform doors. The Turin metro will have them, too.
All VAL systems have them.

All VAL systems have platform screen doors ... except in Jacksonville where there is only an iron gate.
The line (1km) was build in 1987 but the cars has been sold to Chicago in 1996.
So, indded now we can say all VAL systems have platform screen doors
Old system (VAL 256):


New system (monorail) :

Terminal Station has been renamed Jeffersson Station.


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Not in USA, just only in Las Vegas (full) and Seattle (gate).
Um, NYC has PSD on the AirTrains.
In Chicago, as well (see below)


All others VAL systems :

Lille (VAL 206 & 208, since 1983) :
45 km (13.3 + 31.7), 265 000 passengers/day


Paris-Orly (VAL 206, since 1991):
7.2km, 7 500 p/d


Chicago O'Hare (VAL 256, since 1993):
4.3km, 15 000 p/d







Toulouse (VAL 206 & 208, since 1994):
12.5km (28.5km in 2007), 140.000 p/d


Taipei (VAL 256, since 1996) :
13 km, 90 000 p/d



Rennes (VAL 208, since 2002):
9.5km, 80 000 p/d


Torino (VAL 208, in 2005)
9.6km





Paris-Roissy (VAL 208, in 2006):
3.8km


Concerning the line 14 in Paris the lenght is 8km for 350 000 p/d. It's also an automatic metro system.

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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:42 PM   #37
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Just to add to the list, the Gold Coast Monorail has screen doors on the platform.


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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:23 PM   #38
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IN fact the main contribution of platform screen doors to commuters are in fact safety and not aesthetics as many would have thought. Especially in the case of fire.

When an underground train goes thru a tunnel, it pushes a large volume of air in front. When there is a fire in any part of the tunnel or in any station, such rush of air would result in an explosion. Furthermore it prevents people from going too near the train when it is in motion or to jump onto the track.

I have seen a documentary on platform screen doors before (on Discovery Channel I think) and they enhances the safety and aesthetics of a rail system.
The fact that trains kept running through King's Cross-St Pancras Station compex during the 1987 fire disaster was a huge contributory factor to the massive death toll. The fire under an escalator was fanned by the air forced up the shaft by passing trains, leading to 31 deaths.

That being said, PEDs as seen on the Jubilee Line in London and Ligne 14 in Paris make no difference with regards to ventilation (i'm sure intentionally) as the tunnel isn't sealed by the PEDs, they just present a barrier to passengers whilst leaving a large gap above for air to circulate. On air-conditioned networks like Singapore and Hong Kong this is undesiarble, but positively necessary on The Tube.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:26 PM   #39
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Micro, in Barcelona, lines 5 and 11 are being retrofitted with platform screen doors(PSD), so don't have them yet.
Also, in lines 9 and 10, it's not the PSD which are under construction... it's the lines themselves.

Just to make it more clear.
Thanks, I updated the page.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 08:50 PM   #40
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London, just 8 stations all on the Jubilee Line

(Westminster, Waterloo, Southwark, London Bridge, Bermondsey, Canada Water, Canary Wharf, North Greenwich)
Don't forget Heathrow Terminal 5 (u/c)
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