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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:45 AM   #1
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pre WWII massive projects never built

I saw that communist projects never built and wondered about all countries back in that time people loved massive art deco building like the Empire State and chrysler building. So what other building could of there been there was supposed to have been a building in new york with 100 floors and art deco like the empire state. So anyone find any proposals for those kind of buildings?
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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:50 AM   #2
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Hitler had some plans too, but I don't know where to find them.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:50 AM   #3
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Pałac Kultury i nauki w Warszawie.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:54 AM   #4
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^ that building was built i visited it in Warsawa in 2oo3 i meant like cancelled or proposed but never built things
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Old June 28th, 2005, 11:58 AM   #5
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Maybe the emperor of Japan had some plans for massive projects too?
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Old June 28th, 2005, 03:13 PM   #6
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Hitler had some plans too, but I don't know where to find them.
you can find them here: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=211036
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:02 AM   #7
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There was a proposal for Toronto from earlier in the last century (It may have been Eaton's) that was absolutely elephantine; fairly tall, but its outstanding feature was that it took up several blocks.

I can't find the rendering. Maybe another Toronto forumer can track it down.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 06:53 AM   #8
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yes this big ass thing
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Old June 29th, 2005, 07:14 AM   #9
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Hitler also had the plan of destorying paris, and rebuilding it be be... crapper. Then rebuild Berlin to be the greatest city in the world, but then he visited Paris when he had conqured it, and decided to keep it how it was, and instead just make berlin bigger.

But that never happned.
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Whoa, Hitler wanted to destroy Paris, that guy was really crazy
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Old June 29th, 2005, 10:22 AM   #11
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I totally agree
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Old June 29th, 2005, 12:02 PM   #12
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Wow i dont like paris but damn destroy a whole city who knows what it wouldve looked like?!?!?!?!?!?
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:41 PM   #13
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Hitler also had the plan of destorying paris, and rebuilding it be be... crapper. Then rebuild Berlin to be the greatest city in the world, but then he visited Paris when he had conqured it, and decided to keep it how it was, and instead just make berlin bigger.

But that never happned.
that would have made some Paris vs. Berlin thread on the old Skyscraperschtein von City board!
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:20 PM   #14
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that would have made some Paris vs. Berlin thread on the old Skyscraperschtein von City board!
"Skyscrapercity" would be "Wolkenkratzerstadt" in German.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:22 PM   #15
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Wow i dont like paris but damn destroy a whole city who knows what it wouldve looked like?!?!?!?!?!?
We have plenty of WW2 photos of other cities to show how that looks like, Basically a pile of rubble.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 04:27 PM   #16
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Whoa, Hitler wanted to destroy Paris, that guy was really crazy
Hitler actually gave the order to burn down Paris in 1944. In fact not only Paris but every piece of land that the German army had to retreat from. This was the infamous "scorched earth" or "Nero order". Sometimes it was carried out by the local commanders, sometimes it wasn't. In case of Paris Generalleutnant Choltitz didn't carry the order out.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 06:43 AM   #17
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I found the Toronto structure I referenced earlier. Here's a description and drawing:
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In September of 1911, United Engineering and Construction Company approached the City's Board of Control with a proposal to build a huge structure occupying the entire area bounded by Yonge, King, York and Queen Streets....almost 60 acres. It was to be called the "Toronto Union Terminal and Commercial Building".
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Old July 1st, 2005, 02:47 PM   #18
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You'd need a lot of atriums to get any sort of natural light into that building.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:08 PM   #19
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I believe the whole middle of the building was just a giant atrium, with a huge dome. At 12 million square feet, it would still be the most spacious commercial building in the world, had the city approved it. Of course, none of the skyscrapers of MINT would exist, or would have had to be built elsewhere. A tad too overpowering I think.

The 1920's 4 million+ million sqft College Park would have been much nicer, with it's 671 foot tower.






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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:14 PM   #20
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This is what would of been built on Yonge&College Street if not for the depression. It would have taken up the whole block and would be the tallest retail building in the world at it's time.



But due to the depression, only the first 7 floors and part of the base were built.



The building is still there today, as a shopping, retail, and entertainment complex but I can't find any recent pics.
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