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Old July 1st, 2005, 04:00 PM   #1
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Here it is, the final design:



What'cha think? And DO NOT troll in this thread about how you want the old WTC towers back. This thread is about this tower and what you think of it. If you want to live a pipe dream with the old twins, go to Citytalk or Skybar and lodge a complaint!


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Old July 1st, 2005, 04:55 PM   #2
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Ugly stracture.... :/
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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:10 PM   #3
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oh well looks like any chance freedom tower had in reclaiming some vestige of sophistication for new york has been submerged under incessant regime incumbence. altering the original architect's design has resulted in a flawed composition. you can tell the towers don't match. foster should've won this. his was the only elegant design ameliorable to the divisive hordes of new york's outspoken public.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:19 PM   #4
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it is absolutly beautiful!
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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:24 PM   #5
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It'll be interesting to see how the spire will look like.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 06:49 PM   #6
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Anyone see a resemblance?

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BUILT OF 'STEAL'



By CHRIS WILSON

July 1, 2005 -- Talk about Twin Towers!

Famed New York architect Robert A.M. Stern says David Childs' new Freedom Tower looks just like one of Stern's never-realized designs for the Comcast Center in Philadelphia.

"I'm aware of the resemblance and I'm surprised and flattered," Stern, dean of Yale's prestigious School of Architecture, said in a terse statement to The Post yesterday.

Staffers say Stern, who designed his tower in July 2001, hit the roof when he saw what Childs had created.

Stern's proposed 1,030- foot skyscraper, which would have been the tallest in Philly, rose from a square base whose corners cut away as the building rises, forming an octagonal floor plan through the middle of the tower — a distinctive feature that's just like Childs' Freedom Tower.

Both buildings also have a top square that is twisted 45 degrees from the bottom square.


One of the only obvious differences is the spire on top of the new Freedom Tower.

Stern's tower design, which was one of several that he submitted to Comcast, appeared in the monograph, "Robert A.M. Stern: Buildings and Projects 1999-2003."

Aides to Stern said he was livid when Childs' Ground Zero plans were unveiled on Wednesday by Gov. Pataki.

"It came into everyone's mind who was familiar with the scheme," said one Stern staffer.

"We were like, 'Oh, my God. This looks like our design.' Everyone was familiar with that design was struck by it."

Elizabeth Kubany, a spokeswoman for Childs, shot back, "I don't think we have any comment. I can say with almost 100 percent certainty that David Childs has never seen this design."

This isn't the first time that Childs has been accused of copying someone else's work — it also happened with his original Freedom Tower design.

Last November, Massachusetts-based architect Thomas Shine filed a copyright-infringement lawsuit against Childs accusing him of plagiarizing a project Shine designed while he was a master's student at Yale's School of Architecture.

Shine claimed in his lawsuit that he presented the project to Childs in the fall of 1999, and the Freedom Tower designer wrote him a note:

"It is a very beautiful shape. You took the skin and developed it around the form — great!"

Child's spokesman called the suit "specious" at the time, adding, "While Mr. Shine's building and Freedom Tower share some common design elements, most of these elements have been industry standards for decades."

Two months ago, Childs was forced to scrap his original tower design — which featured a dramatic, twisting shape and exposed wind turbines — because of security concerns raised by the NYPD.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 08:00 PM   #7
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It'll be interesting to see how the spire will look like.
"not very good" would be my answer going from that pic.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 08:36 PM   #8
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Great tower and lovin the spire dont ask me why but i do. I think a twin should be built only without a spire so it would resemble the old WTC.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 09:07 PM   #9
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It's a structure to be proud of because its very chunky and dense, makin it the peak of the cluster. A truly large building. Jackpot!!!
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Old July 1st, 2005, 09:10 PM   #10
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The tower looks great, I still hate the name though.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 09:11 PM   #11
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seems all the new yakers have gone simply boosterism for Fortress Tower


i personally find the tower and its 20-STOREY concrete pedestal contrived at best, rather pathetic at worst...
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:06 PM   #12
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Well, this one looks better than the original. I particularly like how it is chuncky but has slim spire at the top. What's the official height?
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:10 PM   #13
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Well, this one looks better than the original. I particularly like how it is chuncky but has slim spire at the top. What's the official height?
Yeah someone needs to re-post that. The admin. cleaned out the old posts in this thread today. There was a little info. in the old stuff like the heights, but it was more people whining about how this isn't the old WTC.

The height if you count the "spire" is 1,776 feet, but it was more like 1,300-something feet without it.

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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:10 PM   #14
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1776 ft, Butcher.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:10 PM   #15
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Well, this one looks better than the original. I particularly like how it is chuncky but has slim spire at the top. What's the official height?
your english grammar..........

it'll be no problem for yankees and brits, but for me,misunderstood.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:12 PM   #16
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your english grammar..........
Play nice tiger
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:13 PM   #17
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I think it's a dramatic improvement on what was offered before. It's majestic, even and the top is so reminiscent of the WTC.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:16 PM   #18
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the highlight is the incredible moon.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:25 PM   #19
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Old July 1st, 2005, 10:28 PM   #20
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Hmmmmm, better, but that base really suck's ass. If they'd get rid of that stupid base, AND build a twin I jus' MIGHT like it. And oh yes, PLEASE rename it, that Freedom Tower B.S. is so contrived.
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