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Old July 4th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #81
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I disagree I like the Spire Light Up! its like a Unicorn's Horn eh?
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Old July 4th, 2005, 06:02 PM   #82
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Should Just name this SuperTall-------Unicorn-------- TOWER instead of Freedom Tower personal opinion.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 06:46 PM   #83
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Don't troll in this thread with your own WTC site designs, that stuff belongs in Citytalk. This is about the one tower that's being built, not everyone's hope for a twin.
So everyone who said they much prefer a twin in this thread are trolling? Mine just came with a pic.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 10:44 PM   #84
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/idea...p-277751c.html
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Kinderhook, N.Y.: New York City went from having twin towers soaring to 110 floors on Sept. 11, 2001, to settling for a 68-floor building with a big antenna on top of it. If this is the best that they can design for replacing the twin towers, why don't we just have kids in first grade design something better?

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Old July 4th, 2005, 10:45 PM   #85
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Sounds good to me!
Or maybe just "One World Trade", hmm...
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Old July 5th, 2005, 07:14 AM   #86
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Honestly lets think about this. The Eifel (sp?) Tower was considered a montrosity when it was first built. People thought that the original WTC looked like two bland milk cartons when they were built. Eventually people will grow to accept it as a part of NYC no matter what.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 07:22 AM   #87
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Honestly lets think about this. The Eifel (sp?) Tower was considered a montrosity when it was first built. People thought that the original WTC looked like two bland milk cartons when they were built. Eventually people will grow to accept it as a part of NYC no matter what.
I dunno, they're finally tearing down Shay Stadium. Maybe the "FT" will have a similar shelf life.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 07:29 AM   #88
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I really don't get as to why people dont like this tower??, What's not to like about it.

Its Classy, New Yorkish and personally I love the Spire once they light it up very unique!!..

Not to mention the Facade is prime love the way the Glass is and shape of the building is oriented.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 08:38 AM   #89
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I think the architecture isn't very great, it looks like something that would have been built in the early 80's. Still a hell of a lot better than the previous design so I'm not complaining. Its not tall enough, I think the top floor should be at 1776 ft and the spire should be at 2001 ft (the year the towers collapsed).
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Old July 5th, 2005, 08:47 AM   #90
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This design bites.

I think that a structure of defiance should be built instead, with an observation deck 3/4 of the way up. New York needs a climax in its skyline, since the WTC went down it has lacked this culmination in its horizon.

Something real slender, with a hieght of about 400m +.

I know it is a crazy idea, but another office building is not going to solve the problem.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 09:16 AM   #91
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the design by itself is... nice i guess.. but its not as breathtaking as it should be

however, being in NY, i think it contours to the cityscape perfectly, and to me, that makes up for what the design lacks
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Old July 5th, 2005, 03:10 PM   #92
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What? The roof is tilted?
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Old July 5th, 2005, 04:50 PM   #93
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So everyone who said they much prefer a twin in this thread are trolling?
I just didn't want this thread to turn into a debate over re-building the twin towers, because we've already had that debate before and it's soooo played.

Besides, this is the final design barring a huge uprising, but I don't forsee that because this tower, though perhaps "dull", isn't offensive-looking like the previous designs.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 05:41 PM   #94
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I love the new design, especially the mock up with two towers. wow!!
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Old July 5th, 2005, 05:48 PM   #95
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Excellent. Vast improvement on the orgional.
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http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/letters/49531.htm
SIZING UP THE FREEDOM 'FORT'
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July 5, 2005 -- While I am certainly in favor of building a structure to replace the World Trade Center, I am skeptical of the "Fortress of Freedom" ("Fort Zero," June 30).

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly expressed his concerns regarding the original design's ability to resist truck bombs.

And while his concerns are appreciated, what brought down the towers in 2001 was not a truck bomb but two guided missiles.

How can we protect high-rises from such missiles?

Truth be told, we can't.

The best we can do is support President Bush's efforts in making it more difficult for terrorists to bring their death and destruction to our shores

Vigilance in the defense of our borders, coupled with the willingness to respond when necessary, will do much in the defense of our high-rises and our nation.
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The design of the Freedom Tower has now devolved into nothing more than a piece of architectural schlock.

It would be better to have no tower than to have a bunker.

The latest design should send a shiver down the spine of anyone with even a miniscule sense of aesthetics.
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I cannot believe that this process has become so convoluted that I am actually almost excited about the tribute to mediocrity that was unveiled by David Childs and Gov. Pataki.
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I'm glad to see that the Freedom Tower plans are finally set.

Rebuilding at Ground Zero represents the strength of New Yorkers and Americans.
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Old July 6th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #97
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The design is definately not early 1980s. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?11557271

The only slightly comparable buildings from '80-'85 are Williams Tower in Houston and Fountain Place in Dallas. Even then its a poor comparison. SWFC, US7, and Jin Mao are the most comaprable, and they are all built or under construction in this current decade.
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Old July 6th, 2005, 01:55 AM   #98
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I donīt like the desing.
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Old July 6th, 2005, 08:40 PM   #99
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I think the illustration on skyscraperpage looks even worse.
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Old July 7th, 2005, 05:01 AM   #100
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The design is definately not early 1980s. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?11557271

The only slightly comparable buildings from '80-'85 are Williams Tower in Houston and Fountain Place in Dallas. Even then its a poor comparison. SWFC, US7, and Jin Mao are the most comaprable, and they are all built or under construction in this current decade.
The reason I say it looks like its from the early 80's is because its a basic symmetrical design with glass curtainwall which was common from that era. There are no intricate contours or detailed corners. I could draw this design on a sheet of paper in one minute. Jin Mao, SWFC, and US7 would be harder to draw because they form unique shapes. I guess the newer Asian skyscrapers are just more impressive.
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