Marshall Street development

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by aviator

Browsing through the Civic Trust's website, I came across this from their September newsletter:

"In contrast, on what was one of the only really wet evenings in August, the Committee was shown round the Holbeck Urban Village by planners responsible for its regeneration........We saw the famous 'Egyptian' Temple Mill but were informed that the plans for its restoration have been withdrawn - what will happen now? The Holbeck team has plans for new open spaces and repaved streets which could help transform the area. We looked into Tower Works - Yorkshire Forward has asked the Civic Trust to contribute to the selection of the developer for this important site. Finally, bedraggled, we made it to the village pub!"


This is the first I've heard of this development (or even lack of!!). The outline application went to the City Centre Plans Panel in June and was approved subject to (not very onerous) conditions. However, this application was only for the new build to be sited to the south of Temple Mill itself. My recollection of the presentation which the developers put on last year was that this part of the development would fund the work to be undertaken on the mill. It is disappointing, to say the least, to hear this news and makes me wonder what SJS propose to do with the mill.

holy cack. That's rubbish news. Its a huge scheme in totality, perhaps SJS have bitten off more than they can chew, or perhaps simply can't yet get the funding for the scheme bearing in mind the snails speed progress in the rest of HUV. The building of what is basically a totally new city suburb is always going to take sometime, gradual funding etc etc. Rest assured, something will happen to Temple Mill, might just have to sit on it for the next 5 years and hope it doesn't deteriorate.

[Val Verde]

Agree it is rubbish news especially as its one of the best unused buildings in Leeds. Woudnt a good idea for an interim use for this building perhaps to hold gigs inside it as wouldnt that bring people to the area and give more artistic credibility to HUV?



Maybe they could even use it as an exhibition space which could be possible as doesnt this take up a large area and such a thing would also be good in getting people to this area? What was proposed for this anyway was it if I remember a development similar to Salts Mill?

[aviator]

This one's been bubbling away quietly for a couple of years now but there's news:


WARD: City & Hunslet

Application Number 20/304/05/OT

Applicant: SJS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT LTD

Proposal Outline application to erect 66,160 m2 of residential floorspace, 14,357 m2 of Class B1 (office) floorspace, 2,986 m2 of Class B1 (workspace units), and ancillary Class A uses (960 m2), a community and medical centre use (700 m2) and creche and gym use (1,665 m2), and ancillary car parking and landscaped amenity areas.

Site Sweet Street West And Marshall Street Leeds LS11 9DE

Decision: Approved

Decision Date 29 August 2007

Type Outline Planning Application

Decision Type Committee


Still no news on any plans for Temple Mills but it's good to see some movement. There are also some indicative renders on David Lock Associates' website.

[aviator]

Originally Posted by aviator

Still no news on any plans for Temple Mills but it's good to see some movement. There are also some indicative renders on David Lock Associates' website.

Oops, I should read things more carefully, shouldn't I?

David Lock's website also has this piece of news:


Proposals for the future of Holbeck, Leeds 08/08/07

David Lock Associates proposals for the future of Holbeck, south of Leeds City Centre have reached an important stage. Phase 1 of the Sweet Street Quarter, a sustainable mix of city living space, shops, leisure and work space has received planning consent. The section 106 agreement has been signed for the 900,000sqft development, allowing the next phase of the proposals to go ahead. The vision for Phase 2 includes the transformation of redundant warehousing and the Grade I listed Flax Mill, Temple Works, into a vibrant cultural addition to the Holbeck Urban Village.

[Columbus]

So is this no longer a tower as the title would suggest? Anyway looking at those renders, some of it looks good but the last render doesn't do anything for me. Looks a bit like a glass commie block complex. Great find btw aviator!

[Columbus]

I had a further look at this on the website and i find it very dissapointing and unimpressive, its now just a load of very dull similar blocks and its adding quite a substantial amount more apartments on the market which i would prefer to see in decent interesting buildings. Plus they seemed to have completely removed all buildings which would have resembled a tower. I just hope their conversion of templeworks into a cultural building is more imaginative because it would be shame if it was wasted like this.

[Suburban Knight]

Originally Posted by Val Verde

Agree it is rubbish news especially as its one of the best unused buildings in Leeds. Woudnt a good idea for an interim use for this building perhaps to hold gigs inside it as wouldnt that bring people to the area and give more artistic credibility to HUV?



Maybe they could even use it as an exhibition space which could be possible as doesnt this take up a large area and such a thing would also be good in getting people to this area? What was proposed for this anyway was it if I remember a development similar to Salts Mill?

You can lease it for as little as £1 per sq ft if you're interested , although do bear in mind it's 187,584 sq ft with a rateable value of £915,000!!

[aviator]

demolition work on the site last week. I'm watching this in the expectation that the cleared site will be used for parking. Anything else would be a welcome bonus.

[aviator]

More demolition - I had to get past a small crowd of people watching through the factory gates in order to get these shots.

[ahmedd]

Originally Posted by aviator

More demolition - I had to get past a small crowd of people watching through the factory gates in order to get these shots.

Hallelujah!

What are the plans for it's replacement? Arena?

[The King]

i totally agree columbus the company are going to build a load of flats and then mabee we can get our cultural facility in temple mill this should be the other way around surely

[aviator]

There's summat afoot here. I took this shot a few weeks ago and posted it somewhere.






Walking along Sweet Street yesterday, I saw the connecting bridge was being dismantled. I assume it's because of concerns over its safety.

[rich-leeds]

I guess so - it's also sensible timing as the City Council is about to start work to re-open Sweet Street to through-traffic by reopening the road under the railway bridge to connect-though to Sweet Street West. Easier to do it now then when there is lots of through-traffic. Then again, I'm probably giving all concerned far too much credit to be so co-ordinated!

[aviator]

I posted shots a couple of weeks ago of the demolition of the bridge over Sweet Street which used to connect the two sites of the factory. Rich-leeds was, I'm sure, right when he said the demolition could be connected to the imminent reopening of Sweet Street West to vehicles.

But, I drove along Marshall Street after work tonight and noticed that the car park at the southern end of this site has been closed and the diggers are in. I couldn't see any more but will try to have a bit of a scout round to see what's what.

In the meantime, does anybody have any news or wild theories?

[aviator]

double post

[Mikeyp]

Walk past here on my way to work most mornings............ the old 'Kays' is currently been gutted from the inside out......... it's a massive site.

Sweet Street West has been closed off for nearly 30 years now !!!
following serval indicents with double decker buses

[rich-leeds]

I withdraw my theory of co-ordination if all that's also happening on the site. It was a long shot anyway. Sweet Street is being reopened soon, but otherwise the removal of the footbridge just seems to be coincidence.

Good to see some movement here though.

Bit off topic really, but anyone really interested in the Sweet Street reopening can find details here (LINK). Yorkshire Frward are paying for the works - over £600k would you believe! Works due to start in June.

Actually, having a proper read, the report reinforces Mikeyp's comment above:

On three occasions within 8 months in 1979, double decker buses hit the span of the bridge resulting in injuries to passengers. Subsequently, the road was closed to through vehicular traffic by means of a point closure at the bridge.

Remarkable that they didn't learn not to drive double deckers under there!

[Mikeyp]

Originally Posted by rich-leeds

I withdraw my theory of co-ordination if all that's also happening on the site. It was a long shot anyway. Sweet Street is being reopened soon, but otherwise the removal of the footbridge just seems to be coincidence.

Good to see some movement here though.

Bit off topic really, but anyone really interested in the Sweet Street reopening can find details here (LINK). Yorkshire Frward are paying for the works - over £600k would you believe! Works due to start in June.

Actually, having a proper read, the report reinforces Mikeyp's comment above:

On three occasions within 8 months in 1979, double decker buses hit the span of the bridge resulting in injuries to passengers. Subsequently, the road was closed to through vehicular traffic by means of a point closure at the bridge.

Remarkable that they didn't learn not to drive double deckers under there!

I remember the odd school bus hitting it on it's way to Holbeck Baths......

[Wharfman]

Yes, Even Flow, I believe that you are correct. It's not the site of the building on the corner of Marshall Street and Sweet Street West. It's the one behind, known I think, as the home of a company known as 'Management Archives'.

[aviator]

Demolition is continuing apace on the main Reality block south of Sweet Street but I'm blessed if I know why the developers are bothering. My first thought was that the clearance was for car parking but now I'm not so certain. We've just had the site cleared between Globe Road and Water Lane, currently being used for parking. The the former LA Bowl on Sweet Street was demolished and the site was levelled; now the southern end of the site is being used for parking.

Car parks in Holbeck are by no means full (and nor were they before the school holidays began) so I doubt there's much money to be made in providing more parking. So why go to the expense of laying out yet more parking spaces?