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Old September 19th, 2007, 10:53 AM   #121
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Old September 19th, 2007, 09:33 PM   #122
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BKV in Budapest has these:
Ticket for one route,valid until the end of your journey. You need to validate a new one if you change vehicles.

BEB(Budapesti Egyesített Bérlet-Budapest Unified Pass),valid for one month(from the 1st day of the month until the 5th day of the next. Valid on BKV(Budapest mass transit),MÁV(State railways) and Volán(intercity,rural buses) inside the borders of Budapest.

Monthly pass,only valid on BKV

30day pass

There are other types of tickets and passes. Passes come in adult and student/retired subtypes(the student/retired is subsidized by the gov). Several age groups can travel free on the vehicles.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #123
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MARTA in Atlanta just recently switched to the breeze smart card system
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Old September 19th, 2007, 11:44 PM   #124
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NYC MetroCard. It's pretty much the same for all passes (weekly, monthly, except the $2 pass and transfer pass which are paper. School passes are orange for K-7 and green for 8-12)
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Old September 26th, 2007, 07:34 AM   #125
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Off-Peak Fares - Does Your City Have Them?

Introduction
Some cities offer off-peak fares to encourage use outside busy rush hours. Does your city offer these discounts?

Here in Hong Kong, there are no off-peak discounts, but recently there was a campaign to get people to exit the system by 8:30am and they can accumulate points to get a free breakfast.

Off-Peak Fares Eyed for Transit
25 September 2007
The New York Times



The Metropolitan Transportation Authority yesterday proposed charging people less if they ride subways or buses during off-peak periods, in hopes of easing overcrowding during the commuting rushes.

Under the plan, however, most riders would be hit with steep increases, as the authority seeks to generate $580 million from fare and toll increases during the next two years.

The proposal was one of two possible fare-increase formulas offered by the transit agency. The other called for a more traditional set of increases, raising the base bus and subway fare to $2.25 from $2.

The off-peak discount proposal, which if approved would take effect early next year, also calls for a $2.25 base fare. Under this plan, a discounted fare of $1.50 would be available to some MetroCard users during off-peak hours.

But riders who buy the popular unlimited weekly or monthly passes would pay as much as 8 percent more and would not gain from the off-peak discount. Nearly half of all rides taken on the system are paid for with unlimited-ride passes.

And the authority would eliminate the current 20 percent bonus given to people who put $10 or more on a pay-per-ride MetroCard, which now gives them six rides for every five purchased, making the cost of each ride effectively $1.67.

Under the traditional increase being considered, the pay-per-ride bonus remains intact.

But Elliot G. Sander, the chief executive of the authority, said the alternative structure could help address the system's rush hour congestion as well as generate more money.

''This is clearly new territory for us,'' Mr. Sander said. ''It is a very serious, innovative proposal.''

It would be relatively easy to program the turnstiles to charge different rates at different hours, officials said.

The authority has yet to determine which hours would be considered peak travel time, but officials said they would generally coincide with the morning and evening rushes.

Off-peak fares already exist on the region's commuter rail lines. The transportation authority has experimented with limited weekend or evening subway and bus discounts in the past, but those efforts were eventually abandoned.

Susan Kupferman, the acting chief operating officer for the authority, told a committee of the transportation authority's board yesterday that officials were not ready to estimate how many people might shift their travel times if they were charged less.

''The policy objective is to spread the peak by getting riders with some flexibility in their schedule to shift,'' Ms. Kupferman said. ''Even a small percentage shift equates to millions of rides a year.''

A discount would be available to anyone who puts at least $6 on a pay-per-ride MetroCard. During peak hours, passengers with those cards would be charged $2 for each ride, a discount from the new $2.25 base fare. During off-peak hours, $1.50 would be deducted from the card.

The full base fare would still be paid by riders who use cash on buses or who put only one or two rides on a fare card.

Overcrowding is a growing concern for the authority. It is undertaking customer surveys for its subway lines, and initial results show packed subway cars a major complaint among riders. But the century-old system has little capacity to add service.

The authority will flesh out plans for the fare increase next month and then hold public hearings in November. The authority board is expected to vote in December on how to proceed.

The reaction of straphangers to the proposal yesterday was largely driven by the flexibility -- or lack of it -- in their work schedules.

''I'm always looking for the most economical option, so I probably would try to take advantage of the discount,'' said Patricia Gallardo, 48, of the Bronx, who normally puts $20 at a time on a pay-per-ride MetroCard to get to her jobs cleaning apartments. She said her work schedule might allow her to adjust her commute to save more money with an off-peak fare.

But Rhonda Rivera, 25, an accountant who lives on the Upper East Side, said she cannot change the time of day she commutes. She was also unhappy to hear that under the plan, the six rides for $10 bonus would be eliminated.

''The subway fares just keep going up,'' Ms. Rivera said. ''You feel like you get a little back with that bonus.''

While riders debated the possible off-peak pricing, transit advocates said that the overall increase is too steep.

Gene Russianoff, staff lawyer for the Straphangers Campaign, a rider advocacy group, said the authority has taken ''the state and city off the hook and put the burden on the riders.'' Mr. Russianoff said that the authority deserved credit for trying to come up with an innovative formula for fares through the off-peak discount, but that the discount raised a host of questions about how it would work and who would use it.

The fare increase is being proposed even though the authority expects to end the year with close to a $1 billion budget surplus. But it has forecast large deficits beginning in 2009 because of rapidly increasing debt and pension costs and an expected decrease in revenues from taxes on real estate transactions. It says it needs to raise fares and tolls now to avoid a financial crisis.

The authority also proposed increases in Long Island Rail Road and Metro-North fares, which would go up in most cases by no more than 8 percent. Tolls on bridges and tunnels controlled by the authority would increase as well. E-ZPass users, who make up about 75 percent of drivers, would see one-way tolls on most crossings rise to $4.75 from $4.50.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 05:59 PM   #126
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In Minneapolis the fare is $2.75/$2.00 (Express/Local) during peak times, and the fare is $2.00/$1.50 (Express/Local) during off-peak times. When you pay your fare you get a transfer good on any bus or train in any direction for 2 and a half hours. There is also a special fare of $4.50 for long distance expresses, and Dial a Rides usually range from $1.50 to $4.25, some have both peak and off peak fares. A 6 hour pass is $3, and a 24 hour pass is $6. 31 day passes are $50 (1.50 fare value), $76 (2.00), and $104 (2.75). There are Stored Value Cards that offer a 10 percent discount, and transit riding incentives to Students and workers through the Upass, College Pass, Metropass, TransitWorks, and TransitSchools programs. We also have a smart card (Go-To card) which uses a 31 day pass, or has a stored value. The Upass, College Pass, and Metropass use the Go-To technology. In our metro area all buses are transferable, because all companies are funded by the same source (the Metropolitan Council).
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Old September 27th, 2007, 02:03 AM   #127
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In Hamburg there is the CC-Card. It is a monthly travelcard and is valid Monday-Friday from 9am to 4pm and after 6pm, and on weekend the whole days.
http://www.hvv.de/fahrkarten/wochen-...rten/index.php
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Old September 27th, 2007, 06:12 AM   #128
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In the Seattle area, fares on King County Metro buses are $1.25 off-peak, $1.50 peak. The regional transit authority (Sound Transit) which runs many commuter bus routes and commuter trains have no peak fares just zone based fares.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 03:56 PM   #129
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No, on the contrary; night buses and trains cost extra! Still cheaper than a cab though.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 04:38 PM   #130
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Off peak-fares here save you about 25%, and extend up to 160 km from the CBD!
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Old September 29th, 2007, 02:30 AM   #131
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Metro North has off-peak fares, but they still aren't cheap.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 03:01 AM   #132
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Metro North has off-peak fares, but they still aren't cheap.
Haha, once I paid 50 cents to go from New York to Old Grennwich. I got a child fare, but still it is like 10 bucks to New Haven on the regular fare.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #133
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In South-East Queensland, you can get a 25% discount on a daily ticket for travel in off-peak times (between 9am and 3:30pm and after 7pm). However off-peak single tickets aren't available.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 11:05 PM   #134
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NJT's off-peak fares are actually pretty cheap.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 11:51 PM   #135
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Haha, once I paid 50 cents to go from New York to Old Grennwich. I got a child fare, but still it is like 10 bucks to New Haven on the regular fare.
Interesting, because according to their website, it costs $9 for a child to buy a ticket from Greenwich to NYC, off-peak, unless you bought it at the station way ahead of time or online. And that's off-peak. Online, it goes down to $3.80...I'm no kid though.

How did you get it that cheap?

It costs $19 for a trip from New Haven to Grand Central, off-peak and one way. That's no bargain.
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It was 2002, hmmm. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly?
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Getting back to hkskylines original concerns ....

Looking at the table originally presented, perhaps the subsequent discussion hasn't addressed the issues raised.

In regard to that table: my gut feeling is that most people here wouldn't shift their traveling time much to save 10% of the fare. Only one option on the table would really attract people.

At the moment, our PT system offers FREE travel to the city for those who arrive before 7 am: at the moment, on a trial basis, for just two lines. I'm not sure how they monitor this, but their intent is clear: move some passengers off the over-crowded peak-hour trains, and let them wake up in the CBD drinking coffee instead.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 12:48 AM   #138
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vancouver has a zone system i believe the fares are $4.50, $3.75 and $2.25 during peak hours

after peak hours (6 pm weekdays and weekends are all off peak) the zones are all treated as one and the fare is $2.25
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Old October 15th, 2007, 05:14 PM   #139
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I don't think off-peak fares are practical to the average commuter, but rather to entice the non-commuter from using trains at those time brackets to give space to those who actually need it to get to work.
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Oporto's system has off-peak fares for people who travel between 10 am and 16 pm (just in the case you have a monthly ride pass)
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