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Old February 12th, 2014, 06:22 PM   #2641
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It seems, on my far away view, China has some big problems with traffic during holidays though when everything goes crazy, so some "oversize" highways are necessary in rural places... plus, the old roads are often clearly useless for even that traffic (too narrow, no pavement, between houses...), and if you are going to blow up a mountain to pass a new road, or you are building a road through desert, 4 lanes is as much work as 2 lanes The political system is such also that priorities are not set necessarily in a logical way (insufficient opposition)...

That said we see in this thread pictures of a lot of urban infrastructure not adapted to traffic, like insane traffic jams on an interchange, or interchange with super-elevated loops (why not just a stack interchange if already spending money to put loops on viaducts?!)
Exactly. Also, hard to imagine people going on vacation to Outer Mongolia.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #2642
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Exactly. Also, hard to imagine people going on vacation to Outer Mongolia.
OK what about Inner Mongolia then?
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Old February 16th, 2014, 03:11 PM   #2643
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It appears the Bohai crossing will be a (long) railway tunnel, so G15 will have a gap due to that. But I'm sure they eventually will build a series of bridges.

On the other hand, I've found a section of G5511 already U/C, the northern bypass of Ulanhot (labelled as Hinggan in Google Maps), including a classic trumpet interchange found all over China.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 07:22 AM   #2644
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Old March 10th, 2014, 02:54 AM   #2645
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Old March 20th, 2014, 04:37 PM   #2646
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Expressway overpasses in Chengdu, Sichuan Province

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Old March 28th, 2014, 01:49 PM   #2647
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Old April 6th, 2014, 11:01 AM   #2648
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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:10 PM   #2649
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XfpYxHKCo

Same in China in roadbuilding in Inner Mongolia and Tibet...
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Old April 7th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #2650
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That video is a common misconception of what is China. They say everything is oversized, when actually is even undersized given the enormous size of China. And certainly not even the G6/G7 between Hohhot and Baotou, a 2x4 superhighway connecting the two largest cities of... Inner Mongolia.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #2651
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both those interchanges, especially the second one, seem horridly underbuilt.. there is no way those will be able to handle significant amounts of traffic without slowing to a crawl.. (though they certainly look impressive)
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Old April 8th, 2014, 03:08 AM   #2652
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yeah, why spend so much money making loops on a viaduct instead of direct ramp? Especially with such tight curves and no barrier between the opposing directions of loop and right turn ramp, this just sounds like immediate trouble...
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Old April 8th, 2014, 09:30 PM   #2653
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An 83 kilometer segment of the G42 Hurong Expressway opened to traffic in Hubei province. It runs from near Xingshan to near Badong, but the exact alignment is unknown since Google Earth imagery in this area is highly outdated or completely missing.

This segment runs through highly mountainous terrain north of the Yangtze River.
If my data is correct the great expressway ForteTwo aimed at is now complete. For some reason I consider it a bit secondary between Jinzhai (Western Anhui, where it splits away from G40) and Dianjiang (Central Western Chongqing municipality, where it bumps with G50), while it would have deserved a Gx0 number on the Shanghai-Nanjing and Dianjiang-Chengdu sections (Especially the former, it doesn't look that important with its current number). I can come up with a totally new grid out from the current expressway plan...
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Old April 8th, 2014, 09:42 PM   #2654
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I'm not sure whether G42 is entirely completed in Hubei. There may be a section missing east of Xingshan (Google Earth shows it U/C alongside S312) and another section between Badong and the border with Chongqing.

It's a shame there is no recent Google Earth imagery in that area. Just north of Badong is a gorge with vertical drops of over 600 meters. The few imagery in that general area is all more than 10 years old.
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Oops, my bad. I hadn't checked the new expressways map, and it seems this is an isolated section of G42.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 03:24 AM   #2656
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Oops, my bad. I hadn't checked the new expressways map, and it seems this is an isolated section of G42.
Close, but no cigar!



Baidu maps is also the only online mapping I've found showing the recently opened Anhui Provincial Expressway S42: http://j.map.baidu.com/HdW-A
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Old April 10th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #2658
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Close, but no cigar!

Baidu maps is also the only online mapping I've found showing the recently opened Anhui Provincial Expressway S42: http://j.map.baidu.com/HdW-A
Wow, Baidu maps is more up to date than Google Maps. Even there are some surprises like G4215, G5013, G95 (While the pre-existing Sxx that now are Gxx are still shown with their previous number).
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Old April 10th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #2659
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That video is a common misconception of what is China. They say everything is oversized, when actually is even undersized given the enormous size of China. And certainly not even the G6/G7 between Hohhot and Baotou, a 2x4 superhighway connecting the two largest cities of... Inner Mongolia.

I mean these roads that go through the desert and to Kazakstan. And a 2x4-highway certainly is oversized if the AADT isn't over 100 000. China will fall like Spain did.
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Old April 11th, 2014, 12:24 AM   #2660
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They all say that China is collapsing tomorrow

After some browsing through Baidu maps I decided to de-certify those "expressways" that actually don't meet the standards:
G6 Jingzang around Chakayan lake. It doesn't quite reach S2013, it ends where it meets G109 East of there.
G30 Lianhuo between Turpan and the G3012 autobahndreieck, and between Kuytun and the Sayram lake. Both these have intersections, so they haven't quite earned the expressway status. This was the case east of Hami too, but it is now fully grade separated.

And I add the new G65 (former G65W) between Tongchuan and North of Yintai, so now I can de-certify old G65 between Yintai and Xi'an. They are building a completely new alignement for G65 all the way up to Yan'an, since the old expressway was substandard in some way.

Also, Baidu mislabels most of G3011 as G215 in an expressway shield (!), but it is clearly full expressway and thus G3011.
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