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Old January 3rd, 2016, 12:27 AM   #3101
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Dimuhe Bridge

The Dimuhe Bridge, just northeast of Liupanshui in Guizhou province. It's part of the G56 expressway. The bridge deck is 360 meters above the Sancha River. It opened on 26 December.





The last photo took me a lot of effort to download. It is apparently the only high-res photo of this bridge in a more completed stage, and I could find it through Google image search, but the URL only worked through a Chinese proxy.
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Old January 3rd, 2016, 03:01 AM   #3102
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It would bring the total length of expressways in China to 124,670 kilometers.
More than all of Europe and basically all built since 2000 bar a few km.

One of the worlds great engineering achievements.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 01:30 PM   #3103
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So far 4788 kilometers of expressway have been reported to be opened to traffic between 18 and 31 December 2015.

It appears that more expressways opened in late 2015 than in late 2014 and 2013. The economy of China is also not growing as fast anymore, it appears that the government attempts to stimulate the economy by building mass infrastructure.

The economics behind all these (tolled) expressways are put in doubt. It's obvious that the Chinese economy as a whole benefits from better infrastructure (and not just the few large coastal cities), but the loss of toll roads ballooned from € 8.7 billion in 2013 to € 22.7 billion in 2014, and will likely continue to rise sharply in 2015 with another 13,000 km of expressway opened, and many of those run through very difficult terrain, increasing the cost of construction.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 04:21 PM   #3104
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the loss of toll roads ballooned from € 8.7 billion in 2013 to € 22.7 billion in 2014, and will likely continue to rise sharply in 2015 with another 13,000 km of expressway opened, and many of those run through very difficult terrain, increasing the cost of construction.
Is this an aggregate of losses for all the concessions who run G Roads Chris...and where was it reported?

Edit ...found this

https://www.chinafile.com/multimedia...re-taking-toll

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Old January 8th, 2016, 12:51 AM   #3105
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An 58 kilometer segment of the Wuhai - Maqen (Wuma) Expressway is reported to have opened in the autonomous region of Ningxia. It runs from Yinchuan to Qingtongxia. It appears to have absorbed an 11 kilometer segment that opened earlier around 2011 just south of Yinchuan. In addition, a 7 kilometer extension of the Guqing Expressway (S12) to the G1816 opened to traffic.

Baidu Maps labels the route as S27. It is unclear how G1816 would run exactly from Wuhai to Ningxia, as there is a mountain range between the two possible routes.

http://www.nx.xinhuanet.com/newscent...1117680220.htm
Nothing is unclear. G1816 should split from G18 south of Hainan Qu (in that damn missing link of G18 to G6), then run South and cross Yellow river into Ningxia near Huinong Qu. Then, it would cross G6 and run parallel to G110, forming the Northwest part of a ring around Shizuishan.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 07:36 AM   #3106
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Longling-Ruili Expresssway

The total length of 129km Longling-Ruili Expresssway,officially open in Yunnan Province,Southwest China.

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Old January 9th, 2016, 12:38 PM   #3107
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G95 in winter

G95 Zhangjiakou to Chengde section, opened by the end of 2015. Many service areas/gasoline stations are yet to complete construction.









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Old January 13th, 2016, 04:50 PM   #3108
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An 11 kilometer segment of the G60N Hangzhou - Changsha (Hangchang) Expressway opened to traffic in Zhejiang province. It runs from Jiande west to Datong. G60N will utilize mostly existing expressways, this appears to be the first new section built as G60N from the start. The rest of the route across western Zhejiang is also under construction.

http://hznews.hangzhou.com.cn/chengs...nt_6042278.htm
Fixed. 长 only is translliterared as 'zhang' when it means 'elder', otherwise is always 'chang'. And Changsha (长沙) means 'Long sands'. Now that is weird
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Old January 28th, 2016, 05:16 PM   #3109
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Tongling Yangtze Road/Rail Bridge

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A 41 kilometer segment of expressway opened to traffic in Anhui province, which is part of the Xuantong Expressway according to Chinese Wikipedia. It is numbered as S32 on Baidu Maps. The new segment runs from Wuwei to G50 near Tongling and includes a double-deck rail/road cable-stayed bridge across the Yangtze.

http://ah.ifeng.com/city/tongling/de...759463_0.shtml
The Tongling Yangtze Road/Rail Bridge is a double-deck cable-stayed bridge, with the six-lane expressway on top and a railroad below. The main bridge has a layout of 90 + 240 + 630 + 240 + 90 meters, however the expressway is elevated over land adjacent to the Yangtze, for approximately 25.4 kilometers. This would make it one of the longest bridges in the world.



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Old January 29th, 2016, 07:50 PM   #3110
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G94 Zhusanjiao Ring Expressway

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A small segment of the mega ring expressway around the Pearl River Delta in Guangdong province opened to traffic in Zhuhai. It is approximately 8 kilometers long, and is a 4 kilometer north-south segment as an elevated highway over Nanqing Road, and a 4 kilometer east-west segment until the Huandao Road exit towards the southern part of Macau.

http://news.dayoo.com/guangdong/2016...6_46433417.htm
A map of the Zhuhai / Macau area to clarify:
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Old February 1st, 2016, 08:40 PM   #3111
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Old February 19th, 2016, 02:46 AM   #3112
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The Degong Road 德贡公路 connecting Deqin 德钦 to Gongshan 贡山 appears to be serviceable with off road viechels. Surfacing work is on going due to damage in the winter. Highest point of this road crosses the Peacock Mountain Pass 碧罗雪山孔雀山垭口. A tunnel under the mountain has recently passed feasibility study. The road is intended to alleviate poverty in the Nujiang river valley through tourism.

As a tourist, this road is very useful for getting into 丙中洛 from Deqin without traveling all the way to Liuku 六库 then back up again.

Here is the Peacock Mountain Pass on Google Maps.
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0747.../data=!3m1!1e3

Photos along this road from October 2015.
http://bbs.fblife.com/thread_3842524_1.html
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Old February 21st, 2016, 10:43 PM   #3113
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Google Maps has been updated for China. They added a massive amount of expressways that opened in the past 14-16 months or so. It appears to be the first major update since mid-to-late 2014.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:19 AM   #3114
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Does anyone know why the aerial pictures of China in GEarth are some 500m to the west from the roadmap ?
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Old February 27th, 2016, 07:50 AM   #3115
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Does anyone know why the aerial pictures of China in GEarth are some 500m to the west from the roadmap ?
That is the rule in China. The maps needs to be cheat for national security reasons. It is the same method like in the communist countries in eastern Europe.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restri..._data_in_China
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Old February 27th, 2016, 04:15 PM   #3117
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That's why Google Maps doesn't allow calculating routes between China and other countries (including Hong Kong and Macau SARs).
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Old February 27th, 2016, 05:07 PM   #3118
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my own photos of G15W Zhejiang province,and G15W Hangzhou bay sea bridge .




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Old February 29th, 2016, 02:42 AM   #3119
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Old March 5th, 2016, 02:21 PM   #3120
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Looking at the sheer vastness of the existing network on Google Maps it is evident that China has to build very little in the east. EG

https://www.google.ie/maps/@23.68287...63712,8z?hl=en

What to do here, build another ring road around Guangzhou??? Is there any point. ???

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Google Maps has been updated for China. They added a massive amount of expressways that opened in the past 14-16 months or so. It appears to be the first major update since mid-to-late 2014.
The economics of what they are focusing on nowadays is quite scary. Most of the new roads built since 2010 are mountain sections in the interior. There is a continual motorway from Kashgar to Beijing now and the only sizeable gap is from Kashgar to Lhasa to Chengdu....across the Tibetan plateau more or less all the way.

Incidentally a poor area where the locals cannot afford Shanghai type tolls either.

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So far 4788 kilometers of expressway have been reported to be opened to traffic between 18 and 31 December 2015.
The economics behind all these (tolled) expressways are put in doubt. It's obvious that the Chinese economy as a whole benefits from better infrastructure (and not just the few large coastal cities), but the loss of toll roads ballooned from € 8.7 billion in 2013 to € 22.7 billion in 2014, and will likely continue to rise sharply in 2015 with another 13,000 km of expressway opened, and many of those run through very difficult terrain, increasing the cost of construction.
Not only are the losses huge (A 157bn Yuan Loss is $24BN dollars in 2014 alone by my calculations) the rate of losses is near X2 per annum year on year and if THAT trend is followed the losses on the Expressway network look like reaching $40bn in 2015 alone.



Note that the network ran at no loss in 2010, that was because the roads built up to then were flat sections between huge coastal or near coastal cities in the main. The business was there.

Then the mountain construction got under way on a large scale and the losses started to mount. China, I think, will pull back hard on the throttles over the next 2 years.

China will still have the biggest expressway network in the world by a good deal and the ANNUAL losses will likely start to reduce on the aggregate, but some road concessions will go bankrupt and some will need extra state money to reduce carried debt and make their losses somewhat manageable.

It is going to take quite some time to clean up this mess.
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